Friday, January 18, 2013

The Outlaws are Coming



The Redcoats are coming is a famous warning attributed to Paul Revere. I think Sarah Palin got that one a bit mixed up. Yet today we have author Alex Caine sounding the warning that the Outlaws are coming to BC.

Alex Caine has spent 30 years doing under cover work infiltrating the Bandidos, the Hells Angels and the KKK. He’s just released the second book in his three part series on bikers called Charlie and the Angels. Charlie refers to the patch of the Outlaws MC and the angels refers to the Hells Angels. Caine talks about the long standing war that has existed between the two organizations and how in the United States the Outlaws are winning that war.

The Calgary Herald recently wrote about his new book and he just did an interview in Vancouver for thecommentary.ca. Realizing how powerful the Hells Angels have become in BC some will scoff at the idea of the Outlaws coming here. Yet logistically, that is the natural consequence of their pride and betrayal. You can’t keep screwing your own people over and over again and toss them aside when you are finished with them. Sooner or later that is going to come back and bite you in the ass. Just like it did in Winnipeg.

The new gang war in Winnipeg started because the Hells Angels killed one of their own guys from one of their own support groups called LHS – Loyalty Honour Silence, to let the Ontario Hells Angels take over the Thompson drug trade. After they just murdered his friend, they told Billy Bowden to suck it up or become a target. That is bad business. Clearly the Hells Angels are setting themselves up for this kind of violence in BC. If the Outlaws are multicultural, they will clean house in BC against the Hells Angels white supremacists and their Whiteboys Posse.

Alex became the accountant for the Washington Bandidos and wrote the first of his three part series called. 'The Fat Mexican: The Bloody Rise of the Bandidos Motorcycle Club. He talks about the Bandido massacre in Ontario and presents an interesting alternative theory on why things went down. He claims it was connected to a drug rip tied to the Hells Angels. This news article claims the victims in the Bandido massacre had 200 kilos of cocaine with them before they were murdered. I always thought the Ontario Hells Angels denied involvement in that awfully fast.

Alex Caine has a third book in the biker trilogy due to be released this Fall called Angel Dust which is more specifically about the Hells Angels. In one chapter called Silence of the Lambs he discusses the Margo Compton murder as well as another child killed named Dallas Grondalski . I wasn’t aware of that one. Hells Angel Charles Anthony Diaz was convicted of her murder in 2004.

Alex Caine even asked me to write a bit about the Vancouver gang war for his new book Angel Dust in the Regional wars chapter which I gladly did. That should be out this fall.

Here's a recent interview with Alex Caine on youtube about his new book.

33 comments:

  1. Congratulations on becoming a published author!!

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  2. lol It's just volunteer. I told him I have no problem with people making money off books they have written but I want my involvement in this to be strictly volunteer. It will get some free advertizing for the website and blog though. Turns out he uses a pseudonym too.

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    1. One of the things worth noting in all this : One person ia a voice, two your a team and if it keeps growing you become a movement. With a common cause, the exposure of the gangs for what they truely are. Like vampires dragged into the sunlight..Well we all know what happens then.
      I'm proud to work with Agent K. stay tuned, it'll get interesting big time.

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    2. Good analogy. Like vampires dragged into the sunlight. There's a scene from the new Hobbit movie to that effect about trolls. Welcome to the blog. It's an honour to have you participating. Keep up the good work with the books. Some of the revelations in the one to come are heart breaking.

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  3. You didn’t ‘hear” shit.LOL.You read it in the Calgary Sun or Agent K’s blog.

    And that info came from a so called “expert” on organized crime,Alex Caine.

    Alex Caine is an author who tried to say the massacre of the Toronto Bandidos in Shedden, Ontario was orchestrated by the Hells Angels,or at least on their behalf, because APPARENTLY a Bandidos prospect(Jamie Flanz) found a few birdies(kilos for those who don’t know)that apparently belonged to the Hells Angels in the trunk of a car with Quebec plates parked facing the wrong way on a street in an industrial area.(really sloppy and very unprofessional way to move multi-key loads.Not like the 81 to be that careless.Period.)
    NOWHERE in ANY videotaped evidence,court transcripts or information gathered from witnesses,cops or informants is there proof of this,much less even a suggestion it happened,or could have happened.

    Yet Alex Caine(the so-called expert) wrote a book around this entire premise based on “info” which he,and only he,has managed to have access to.

    Alex Caine,In my humble and personal opinion,is completely full of shit.Therefore,if he is the one claiming this and also stating that there will be a war,he is only doing so to publicly promote one of his new books in a trilogy called Charlie and the Angels(real original Alex,…)

    Agent K is lapping this shit up like a starving man at a buffet.

    The Hells Angels had nothing to do with the Shedden Massacre.
    The Outlaws are not moving into BC to go to war with the Hells Angels.
    Do not believe everything you read just because an “expert” writes a book for profit!

    If you read this Alex Caine,I purchased The Fat Mexican at full price,and I want my fucking money back!!!

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    1. Yeah right and the Hells Angels don't sell drugs they just ride motorcycles. The Hells Angels denied any involvement in the Shedden Massacre almost before it happened. The news report I submitted a link to confirmed that the victims in the Bandido massacre had 200 kilos of cocaine in their possession that Wayne Kellestine stole from them. It is very hard to believe that much cocaine had nothing to do with the Hells Angels.

      You're right, don't read Alex Caine or my blog. It'll make you go blind. Either that or make you wake up and smell the coffee. Something the Vampires with the Hells Angels don't want you to do. I have had several contacts e-mail me before and after I made this post about the Outlaws being here already and are planning to come here in full force. Think about it. They hunt the Hells Angels. What better place for them?

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    2. I'm not disputing the criminality aspect of the Hells Angels,The Bandidos,The Outlaws or any other organized crime groups.You'd have to be either blind or retarded to see them as anything but criminals.

      I'm telling you that I've done a hell of a lot of research on the Shedden Massacre in the last 6 years,including sitting in on the trial on a couple occasions, and I'm calling out Alex Caine on his bullshit.

      If you want the truth(or as close to it as anyone who wasn't personally involved can get)do yourself a favor and read Peter Edwards book The Bandidos Massacre,or the court transcripts.

      He uses interviews with cops,witnesses,etc, and the most factual reference material available,COURT TRANSCRIPTS and PHYSICAL EVIDENCE REPORTS.

      Or,you could use your "sources" reach out to Author(and actual Hells Angels expert) Yves Lavigne.I read about the murders you referenced above in one of his books years ago. He's already covered a lot of the info that is to be found in Alex Caines new book.

      I do like the smooth,easy to read style he writes with, and he does tell an interesting tale,but Alex seems to rely on very little provable evidence to spin his "artistic premise" into a paycheque...

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    3. I have no problem with Alex Caine. I think the fact that he raises alternate theories is a good thing. Mainstream media concerns me. If the Hells Angels were in any way involved with the Bandidio massacre, they would passionately deny it. The fact that the victims had in their possession 200 kilos of cocaine is not very well known but highly relevant. If anyone wants to write a book about the Hells Angels and expose some of their dirty deeds they keep denying then more power to them. If they make a couple bucks off a book on the side then more power to them. One thing that I do know is that the Hells Angels here are afraid of the Outlaws and they don't want them coming here. I don't support any OMG that sells crack. Yet I do see a free market to be a good thing. I would however defy anyone to claim that anything I wrote for his new book is not completely backed up by documented facts. That time I was pretty focussed.

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    4. "I think the fact that he raises alternate theories is a good thing."

      No kidding.... :wink:


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  4. To avoid any confusion,that was something I posted on Kims blog.The first sentence or two is a direct reply to another poster on that site.


    Junior.

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  5. In Alexs book Charlie and the Angels he claims the Outlaws have a chapter in little old Charlottetown PEI.

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  6. Sounds interesting. I have had reports of Outlaw sightings with Rock Machine in New Brunswick. I think the key thing to remember is that Alex Caine has had many years of experience doing under cover work. I have never met Sonny Barger but he has. That means he's going to have a different perspective than someone who gets all their information from reading books on the subject.

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  7. I understand that and have respect for My Caine but to claim there is a chapter in PEI..... that's where I lose a bit of respect for him. I live here and know very well there are no Outlaw chapters here.

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  8. I respect Alex Caine for his past history. He has had years of under cover work and has been to court hundreds of times prosecuting numerous cases. People have point blank told me there is a chapter of the Outlaws here in Surrey and or Vancouver. I kind of scoff at that taking it with a grain of salt. I realize there could be associates here who aren't flying colours but the thought of a chapter here to me seems to be stretching it. However, I was speaking with someone from the RM quite a while ago who claimed there were RM members here in Surrey and Vancouver although they weren't wearing colors in public. Back in the day, the RM wore rings not patches. They were lower profile than the hollywood drama queens. I even considered hooking up with them and riding into Kelowna to pay Dale the drag queen a visit. Then I found out after they kicked out their new president for claiming they didn't sell drugs, the new kids turned it back into a drug trafficking organization which I cannot support.

    I do believe there was a meeting between Outlaws and the RM in New Brunswick. The person who told me wouldn't tell me the town but I think I know which one. No doubt some people would want to start that rumour even if it wasn't true in hopes the Outlaws would see the support and come to town. That is another possibility. I do know that the Outlaws have been around a very long time. They were the first ones to use the term 1%er before the Hells Angels did. They hunt Hells Angels for breakfast. If they were coming here or had chapters here, the Hells Angels would do everything in their power to deny and discourage that fact completely to dispel their momentum.

    Clearly the fact that the victims of the Bandido massacre had in their possession 200 kilograms of cocaine is of huge significance. The fact that was not even mentioned in the trial is astonishing.

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  9. "The fact that was not even mentioned in the trial is astonishing."

    That's because (as I posted in the long-running Ontario Police case), the Police took the drugs and sold them themselves...

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    1. Bloody hell, can you repost the link? I missed that one.

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    2. Hey guys, I've been reading your comments and its a great thing. The more people talk about the Outlaws the harder it will be for them to sneak in.
      About the Hells Angel drugs and sheddon. There's a reporter for the "Toronto Star" by the name of Peter Edwards He's a well respected media guy who has ten books to his credit (google him)He was the first to write about the drugs and the "alternate" version you refer as mine. It was in the paper and then never spoken of again. He wrote of it long before I did. If you don't want to look at me look at him and he is beyond reproach. Some one said the HA wern't that sloppy as to leave stuff in a car misparked. Let me tell you. Drugs move across the country that way, like the pony express of old. One driver takes it part way and parks it leaving the keys. another arrives get in and drives it to the next leg. The drivers don't know what they are carrying where it will end up or even where it comes from. Actually very safe and smart. One driver messes up and bang you have the story. BTW, I even found the car but the trial was underway and no one wanted to hear it.

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    3. Good points. I noticed one hater who commented on the youtube video was trashing you and promoting a book by Sonny Barger instead. That says it all. If the Hells Angels don't want people reading your books, that means people should. Sonny Barger was friends with Otis Garrett and attended Otis' trial. Barger is no legend and no hero. He is a baby killer accomplice.

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  10. AK: " If the Outlaws are multicultural, they will clean house in BC against the Hells Angels..."

    But the UN was totally, explicitly *multi-cultural*; and they are gone, while the HA is still a force to be reckoned with. Doesn't that kind of wipe out your argument...?

    Clay Roueche used all kinds of serious Oriental symbolism to forge the UN Gang. He is on tape describing what are basically a lot of very Eastern-style rules...about which meat is clean to eat, etc..

    AK: "I missed that one."

    I don't think you missed it; as you commented on the Toronto Team 3 anti-drug squad. Their trial took 10 years, and they were the same as the SIU in New York, in the movie, "Prince of the City," with Treat Williams. Same trip, they only went after the big fish, whom they beat, stole all their cash & dope, made big bucks...

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  11. What makes you think the UN are gone? I'm beginning to think that might be the case but the fraud charges linking them to money laundering at Bandera gold would imply otherwise. The UN succeeded against the HAs here because they were multicultural. The HAs prosper in small towns where racist beliefs tend to perpetuate and have a harder time competing in larger multicultural cities unless they find a brain dead puppet to work for them and sell their drugs to different minorities.

    I missed it in the sense that my brain is a sieve. I can't find any mention of the Toronto Team 3 anti-drug squad in the blog. I do want to research that though.

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  12. I can now see the Team 3 case on google. Those cops look like mafia members not cops. They were involved with the Bandido Massacre investigation? They were accused of stealing the 200 kilos of cocaine? How did the fact that the victims of the Bandido massacre have 200 kilos of cocaine on their possession get reported then? That corrupt drug squad needs to be investigated further.

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  13. Maybe the Outlaws Chapter in PEI can investigate?

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  14. No offense, but I really don't see the existence of a chapter of the Outlaws in PEI to be of any great significance. We know that Bacchus from Halifax were caught selling drugs for the Hells Angels in PEI. That is a reality. We know that the Outlaws do exist, have existed for many year and are very strong in the US. Alex Caine's book talks about that extensive 30 year history fighting with the Hells Angels. That is what the book is about. The history of the Outlaws. The fact that he makes a small statement expressing his opinion that the Outlaws are in or are planning on coming to PEI is really insignificant compared to the long history the book does cover. People other than Alex Caine have told me Outlaws are here in BC. I'm sceptical but people have told me that. Whether they are here or are planning to come is really insignificant. The fact is the Outlaws do exist and have a long history that the book discusses. We don't know much about the Outlaws here so from a historical point that book has merit. The fact that the victims of the Bandido massacre had 200 kilos of cocaine in their possession before they were murdered is hugely significant. The fact that information was excluded from the trial is very suspect. The fact that Freddy mentioned about the Team 3 drug squad being charged with years of corruption is also very significant. Sticking our head up our ass doesn't answer those questions.

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  15. I meant that the UN is now mostly in prison or dead. C. Roueche, the one mastermind, doing 30 years. Are the UN helicopters, loaded with bud, still making their usual flights? Very doubtful, that big operation exists any more, it was Clay who had the Triad connections ( his ex-wife was Triad; did you know that...?). *Taco* Castenada & more shot dead in Mexico, and the others are coming up to a huge murder-trial this year. Cory d'Monte and one more, on the run for murder. It ain't the regimented, unified group, I don't believe...

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  16. You gotta give the book, "Prince Of The City" a look, it's so exciting & well-written.

    The SIU (Special Investigative Unit) was to be NYC's TOP crime/narco undercover guys. They could come & go as they pleased w/o reports of any kind, they just ran the show, they were the "Princes" of NYC.

    You'd have to be a Saint, (or Toronto's notorious Team Three), seeing all the millions in a suitcase, kilos of narcotics to be re-sold, and...just leave it all there...? Is a big dope-dealer going to come to the Police, and say, "My drugs & cash are gone...?"

    Good luck with that; and it's what NYC's SIU & Team 3 counted on.

    But the good times never last forever.

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  17. Massive Toronto police corruption trial begins.

    Toronto's Team Three.

    It was Agent K; who right away noticed that Team Three looks like the guys they're chasing. See the expensive ties & shirts, the beautiful 3/4 length leather jackets ( copied exactly from NYC's SIU high-priced wardrobe.)

    "...between 1999 and 2003, the federal Department of Justice, without any explanation, stayed some 200 criminal cases against accused drug dealers arrested by the officers."

    "Toronto’s former mayor John Sewell, who heads the Toronto Police Accountability Coalition, said prosecutions of alleged police corruption in general can take years, likening them to organized crime trials in which defendants challenge every legal decision and ruling."

    “And they just go on and on and on forever,” Sewell told CBC News, “because they hope, or the strategy seems to be, that they can drag things out for long enough that witnesses are going to die, that they’re going to move away, maybe to another continent, people are going to retire, everyone’s going to forget what really happened.”

    http://tinyurl.com/7zmnnsb (CBC)

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    1. Well ..interesting indeed the Outlaws M.C. are in P.E.I. and Newsflash There here in NOVA SCOTIA as well Bros.they were called into these provinces to oversee the crap that the Bacchus and The Darksiders are bestilling on the public..they have alot of support ..at least they dont squash heads on pavement and run around in the dark burning down wheelchair bound old ladies homes and beating up independant bikers like these goons do ..its going to be interesting this year when the bikes start rolling and did you ever think that these M.C. are loaded with police officers trying to stir things up for the almighty Biker War On The East Coast ...mark my words when the 2 wheelers roll so will be the onslought of another interesting year in NOVA SCOTIA

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    2. There are no Outlaw MC on PEI case closed.

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    3. That paranoia sounds almost suspicious. I have heard otherwise now from other sources as well. One guy who was trashing Alex Caine on youtube was promoting a book by Sonny Barger instead. Hardly a credible or neutral source.

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  18. Not sure what a guy trashing Alex Caine on youtube has to do with Outlaws MC on PEI.

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  19. My point is a guy who was attacking Alex Caine's credibility had no credibility of his own. He suggested reading a book by Sonny Barger instead. I don't think you'll read about the Margo Compton case or the child the Hells Angels murdered in Sonny Barger's book. But you will in Alex Caine's and those are true events that really did happen. I'm not going to get bent out of shape over small details myself. Especially when after investigation the small details turn out to be true. Like the cocaine the victims of the Bandido massacre were in possession of the night they were killed. People deny Outlaws are here in Vancouver but I'm hearing things on the QT that contradict that.

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