tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post2820652066181019353..comments2024-03-29T04:59:07.741-07:00Comments on Gangsters Out Blog: East Vancouver Hells Angels DocumentaryDennis Watsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06736981069304416233noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post-3231466087479195342018-02-03T13:05:00.406-08:002018-02-03T13:05:00.406-08:00YesYesAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16387672174717640914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post-12282188593516271352011-09-08T06:00:27.629-07:002011-09-08T06:00:27.629-07:00Indeed. When witnesses die or go missing that is a...Indeed. When witnesses die or go missing that is a deterrent in people reporting crime to the police. Personally, I think the first step is to stop letting the dealers sell crack in public. At least that’s a start.Dennis Watsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06736981069304416233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post-63329783981997486572011-09-07T21:55:08.484-07:002011-09-07T21:55:08.484-07:00It seems like when you can't protect people fr...It seems like when you can't protect people from the Hell's Angels, or org crime in general, it makes it difficult to move against them, unless there are people who think they are already as good as dead/worse that have a vendetta against them.Maikeru1333https://www.blogger.com/profile/04566526166913593370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post-76840720308268281932011-04-21T19:03:28.444-07:002011-04-21T19:03:28.444-07:00Some. I had a friend that used to teach handgun ta...Some. I had a friend that used to teach handgun target shooting at shooters before it closed down many years ago. I also used to take scouts to do .22 rifle target shooting. Skeet shooting was way different than target shooting. I haven’t had much contact with guns really. You are right about people getting off with weapons charges when they are using them to commit crimes. Reminds me of that Abbotsford judge who let one of the Bacon brothers off with a huge number of automatic weapons seized. It’s crazy.Dennis Watsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06736981069304416233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post-67456566788638840272011-04-21T14:07:01.909-07:002011-04-21T14:07:01.909-07:00I'm sure you're right about all the things...I'm sure you're right about all the things to be changed, but...the tortuous logic here, where we can assume no one knows firearms are at hand, is so ridiculous it brings the law into disrepute.<br /><br />I don't know about you but I've been shooting rifles & shotguns since teenage years. So many of us have, and everyone knows ALL THE TIME where their guns are! It's really basic & necessary to life.<br /><br /> These repeated rulings defy that logic with the public. Gangsters are being freed from sure & serious felony convictions! I was shocked to read all this; the public should be outraged. Also, we surely believe that the law doesn't give us the presumption of ignorance...Just too discouraging.freddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00874780016491360565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post-6970951764611342722011-04-21T07:30:20.862-07:002011-04-21T07:30:20.862-07:00That is rather bizarre. That’s like Glen Hehn clai...That is rather bizarre. That’s like Glen Hehn claiming he didn’t know there was 52 kilograms of cocaine in the boxes he was loading from his storage locker onto a truck. <br /><br />I think the problem is bigger than just the laws. The one officer ended up quitting the biker enforcement unit because no one would testify against the Hells Angels which made their job virtually impossible. That plus a series of judges that sway in favor of the Hells Angels shows that the same laws aren’t being enforced in BC like they are in other provinces.<br /><br />Changing the law won’t see David Giles’ decision reversed. The judge threw out wire tap evidence and said they didn’t hear what everyone else heard on the wire tap. Same with the Glen Hehn case. I think changing the laws will just affect the people the Hells Angels use until the existing criminal org laws start being implemented which they slowly are as long as they don’t name the criminal org.Dennis Watsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06736981069304416233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post-766832341799885762011-04-21T06:24:21.870-07:002011-04-21T06:24:21.870-07:00But here's a problem highlighted by Kim Bolan;...But here's a problem highlighted by Kim Bolan; the difficulty of getting gun charges to stick in BC. We need strong laws, not this sort of hindrance.<br /><br />"Speaking generally, (Crown spokesman) McKenzie admitted cases involving guns in cars can "be difficult cases to prove for a number of reasons."<br /><br />"There are certainly some challenges in that type of case."<br /><br />"(RCMP Officer) Thiessen said it can be difficult to prove a suspect knew there was a gun in his vehicle."<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/5wew57freddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00874780016491360565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post-32682557762083349762011-04-20T18:28:20.091-07:002011-04-20T18:28:20.091-07:00I completely agree the officers involved did a fan...I completely agree the officers involved did a fantastic job on the case and will expand upon it in the post. I’m not really comfortable with them seizing every grow op under civil forfeiture since that won’t touch them just the mules that work for them but I do think they should seize clubhouses as they clearly are in the business of organized crime. The fact that the City of Vancouver bought the Drake from the East Van Hells Angels and paid them twice what it was worth is very strange. They should have seized the Drake not slipped them and extra $2 million for it.Dennis Watsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06736981069304416233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post-64822006527661680042011-04-20T17:58:24.321-07:002011-04-20T17:58:24.321-07:00Of course they are still laughing, and will be as ...Of course they are still laughing, and will be as long as the Justice system fails to allow for convictions of these shit stains.<br /><br />On the bright side, look at the amazing work Andy Richards and his parter did. They hit the angels hard, and hit them where it hurts, in their bank account. They executed what? over 70 search warrants for H.A grows?. Thats all dollars boy.<br /><br />Also, a beautiful thing we are seeing more of finally, is (as you mentioned) civil forfeiture hitting these guys. I would like to see a lot more of it, but hopefully in due time these guys will lose more and more of their ill gotten assets.Marvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14993185922389521222noreply@blogger.com