tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post9187139851726349465..comments2024-03-28T15:45:27.890-07:00Comments on Gangsters Out Blog: Rich Coleman has allowed gangs to flourish in BCDennis Watsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06736981069304416233noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post-3125619829081493602018-07-08T01:46:16.523-07:002018-07-08T01:46:16.523-07:00Robert Pickton was not a serial killer he was a cl...Robert Pickton was not a serial killer he was a clean up crew. He was convicted on the fact that he did not act alone and was not the only participant in the murders. He was even convicted on the fact that he was not the primary person involved, he was simply an active participant. <br /><br />The police ignored him because off duty police offivers attended parties at Piggies palace. The Dianne Rock story claims she was gang raped on the Pickton farm by bikers and cops. That is why the police ignored Robert Pickton. They were covering up for their own people.<br /><br />Another leader could replace Dwane McDonald who is bad like Bill Fordy just as easily as a municipal force could be bad. One is not a magical solution to the other. All police need to be accountable to the public who pay their wages municipal or federal.Dennis Watsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06736981069304416233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post-38801583305010409132018-07-07T23:17:43.894-07:002018-07-07T23:17:43.894-07:00I live on Vancouver Island, but lived in Vancouver...I live on Vancouver Island, but lived in Vancouver/Richmond for over 50 years and still spend 2 or 3 months a year in Richmond/Vancouver and my friends, family all live in the area, including Surrey. I consider I have a vested interest in what happens in all of B.C. but especially greater Vancouver because that is where the children I love are growing up. <br /><br />of course the VPD isn't perfect and I certainly was aware of the point you make. The VPD ignored the problem for years as did Vancouver politicians. Women's groups knew after 9 there was a serial killer out there but the good and wealthy citizens of Vancouver weren't interested and the police weren't going to do work they didn't have to. However, given the Surrey RCMP and the VPD and the chain of command in the situations, I'd still want a community police force. McDonald may be a good man and I'd certainly take your word for it. However, should he receive a promotion, he'll be gone and Surrey could have another version of Bill Fordy. that is the problem with the RCMP. One commander is great, the next one is a piece of shit. Have seen it on Vancouver island. e.a.f.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06244666617774794918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post-32314132880211212612018-07-07T20:16:24.068-07:002018-07-07T20:16:24.068-07:00Fair enough. All I'm saying is that getting ri...Fair enough. All I'm saying is that getting rid of the RCMP won't necessarily change anything. During the missing women Inquiry the VPD were accused of extorting sex trade workers into having sex with them. <br /><br />For someone who lives on Vancouver Island, you certainly have strong opinions about what we need in Surrey. Dwane McDonald is a good man. We can work with him. Bill Fordy was not. Right now the Surrey RCMP are doing exactly what they should be doing on the Surrey strip because they are afraid of being replaced. That alone shows why this conversation is worth having.<br />Dennis Watsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06736981069304416233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6576246045591350665.post-6442939338836433242018-07-07T14:30:39.367-07:002018-07-07T14:30:39.367-07:00Must disagree with you on the Surrey RCMP. They d...Must disagree with you on the Surrey RCMP. They do have to GO. They do not have any loyalty to Surrey, their careers are managed by Ottawa. their pay cheques come from Ottawa. Surrey is just a place they pass through on the way to some thing better. Communities which have more than 25 to 50K citizens need their own police forces which report to the police board of the community. As it now stands all recruits come from Regina and the are still using the same training methods as they did 20 years ago. Then they're shipped to Surrey. The RCMP was formed to police rural areas and their training is still based on that. Surrey is no longer a rural community and hasn't been since the 1970s. its time to stop trying to save nickels and dimes and get their own police force. cops who transfer out on a continual basis never attach to the community and never get to know it. Oh I know it costs more to have your own police force, but what is going on in surrey is costing a whole lot more in terms of money and people's lives.e.a.f.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06244666617774794918noreply@blogger.com