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Tuesday, November 30, 2010
Geoff Meisner was tied to the Hells Angels and the Kingpin Crew
It would appear that our suspicions have been confirmed. Castanet news has reported that Geoff's wife Tammy is petitioning to have her missing husband declared legally dead under the Survivorship and Presumption of Death Act. Geoff went missing a year ago on November 27, 2009.
It appears that they got a hold of the affidavit and claims in it Tammy admitted to having limited knowledge that her husband was associated, and or affiliated with the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club and the King Pin Crew.
Now this doesn't come as a big surprise because when Britney Irving's body was found, the police announced that Geoff's death, or his disappearance, was drug related. Several people claimed that he was laundering money in Vegas. The same run that was taken over shortly after his disappearance.
The first thing I have to say on the matter is 1) Back off of Tammy and 2) Back off of Geoff. These are good people who were taken advantage of by bad people. Tammy did not make that statement to the media. She made it in a court document to support her application to have her husband declared legally dead so she can sell some of the assets since his death has been a colossal financial hardship on their family.
When we take a look at Adam Scorgie's movie the Business of Getting High, we see many good people who support the legalization of Marijuana. We have also seen evidence of the Hells Angels violent bid to take over grow ops with force. Who would have thought a motorcycle club could be so cruel? Who would have thought they were capable of being pimps and baby killers. Most wouldn't even dream that was possible. Doing business with them would have been naive but not malicious.
What I find interesting is if Geoff Meisner was tied to the Hells Angels and the Kingpin Crew, was Britney tied to them as well? She lived on a grow op. Do the Hells Angels control all the grow ops in their little retirement village? Does anyone in the Kingpin Crew know where Britney got her Oxycotin from? These questions need to be answered in both murder investigations.
In the mean time cut Tammy, Geoff and their children some slack. I do not believe for one minute Geoff ripped off the Hells Angels. I believe that is a bold faced lie. I think they replaced him with someone who would do the same job for less money.
BACK OFF TAMMY? THESE ARE GOOD PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF? COME ON! TAMMY KNEW EXACTLY WHAT GEOFF WAS UP TO, SHE LIVED THE LIFE! SHE HAD THE TURKEY AND ALL THE FIXNS. SHE WASN'T UP FRONT ABOUT HER KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT HER HUSBAND WAS DOING BECAUSE SHE KNEW IT WAS WRONG, NOW THE ONLY WAY TO GET CONTROL OF THE ASSETS (THAT WE ALL KNOW WAS BOUGHT BY DIRTY MONEY) SHE HAS TO COME CLEAN. WHAT ASSETS WOULD A PROTEIN SALESMAN HAVE THAT WOULD BE WORTH GOING THROUGH ALL THIS TROUBLE. THE REALITY IS, YOU GET INVOLVED IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY YOU RUN THE RISKS OF GETTING KILLED PLAIN AND SIMPLE. LIVE BY THE SWORD DIE BY THE SWORD. IT SUCKS BUT IT'S TRUE. I FEEL SORRY FOR HER KIDS BUT NOT FOR TAMMY.
ReplyDeleteBoth Tammy and Geoff were decent people, maybe if anything too ambitious in the pursuit of a better life but that's no reason to bash them, it does not matter who you are someone somewhere will undoubtedly look down on you with righteous, condemnation. let he is without sin cast the first stone right? (and no Im not religious but its a valid quote) Who has not wanted something more for their family and if presented with an opportunity for more income would not take it? If there is one thing I know its that most anyone who has gotten ahead in life has broken laws and then fixed those laws so the next upstart cannot use the same loophole.
DeleteI hope that tammy and her children can move past this and the kids can come to terms with loosing their father because at the end of the day its not about your opinion or the crimes its about those left behind to pick up the pieces
Do you feel the same about Britney? She sold pot to pay for her Oxy addiction. She didn’t hurt anyone else. I do feel sorry for Tammy and her kids. I also feel sorry for Geoff. True if you get involved in the drug trade you run the risk of getting killed by a rival gang but I really don’t think that’s what happened here. I think he was betrayed and screwed just like Britney was.
ReplyDeleteYou are right Tammy and most of their friends must have known where the money was coming from. That’s not really something one broadcasts to the media. I don’t think she was being dishonest I think she was being discreet. The bottom line is the children have lost a father who did care about them. Neither Geoff nor Britney deserved to die.
Agent k,
ReplyDeleteWhy is it you like everything to the Hells Angels. We're you a cast away, a rat that got caught and for some reason lived to tell your story. Do you have any proof to your allegations. Cause if their were some proof I believe these peeps would be taking care of. Your blogs all point to the HA and so called puppet clubs, How about the RS IS or the UN ?
Well let’s see… Maybe because the Hells Angels were the driving force behind the Drug Turf War in Quebec and because the Hells Angels not only use violence to take over the drug market in smaller cities across Canada but are the largest cocaine importers in the country and the crack they import is fueling the BC gang war.
ReplyDeleteThe IS work for the Hells Angels now. The old leadership were shot or died in car crashes. The UN have been found working with the Hells Angels. The RS had beef with the Haney Hells Angels until the Bacons killed off the former RS leadership. The Bacons were seen associating with Randy Naicker and the IS in Castle Fun Park in Kevlar. Now the Red Lobsters pay tribute to the Hells Angels. Randy Naicker from the IS was posing with Hells Angel Larry Amero in support.
I think it pretty clear who the real rats are.
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ReplyDeleteso if britney got busted in a grow op.... and this joey fella was accused of murder and ROBBERY how would the po po know what was happening or that weed was involved??? maybe britney was setting up someone higher up on the food chain cause the cops cant do it on their own merrit. maybe just maybe someone caught wind of this and we all know what happened after that. so instead of blaming everyone else maybe it was the cops that killed her cause they didnt do a very good job hiding the fact that she was working for them. like agent k said there is the risk of being killed and the cops at the end of the day forced her into that position so maybe we should turn our eyes to a new suspect and they happen to be the biggest gang in canada they go by the name of the RCMP they all carry guns they get away with murder. so who should be actually should be held accountable?????
ReplyDeleteI haven’t read the court statement so I can’t say but I doubt it. I think she meant that to be a private statement. I don’t think she meant for the media to go and request a copy of it. That video clip was what broke my heart about the case. The little girl being all sad because she didn’t get what she wanted for Christmas - her Dad back. Whoever killed or kidnapped him is absolutely heartless.
ReplyDeleteMaybe, maybe, maybe… that’s a bit of a stretch for me. I don’t believe Britney was going to rat someone out. I believe that is the same as the fabricated lie that Geoff Meisner robbed the Hells Angels. I believe it is completely false. Britney was going into rehab. They were losing a customer who possibly had a drug debt. I think it was that simple.
ReplyDeleteThink about it, who would steal 70 kg of cocaine then have the guy who sold it for him killed? The same guy who leased cars in another guy’s name then paid to kill the car dealer so he didn’t have to pay the debt? The same people who would swear they were on their way to return two SUV’s then not show up? There are some dirty people in Kelowna and the time for glorifying themselves will one day come to an end. They are not gangsters, they are Rats.
YOU ARE DEFLECTING THE REAL ISSUE. WHAT REASON WOULD ANYONE HAVE TO KILL BRITTNEY OTHER THAN SHE WAS GUNNA RAT ON A HIGHER UP GUY???? IF SHE WAS CREATING BUSINESS SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN LEFT ALONE. EVERYONE THAT KNOWS ANYTING ABOUT BEING A "GANGSTER" KNOWS THAT RATS ARE NOT TOLERATED. SOME OF THESE "GANGSTERS" ARE COWARDS THAT IS NOT A SECRET AS IN THE CASE OF KUNTZ BEING KILLED CAUSE HE WAS OWED MONEY AND INSTEAD OF PAYING HIM HE WAS KILLED AND I HAVE A FEELING THE SAME HAPPENED TO GEOFF. IN BRITTNEYS CASE THERE IS SOME THINGS ELSE BEHIND THE SCENES THAT YOU ARE NO SEEING. SHE WAS NOT OWED MONEY AR ANYTHING BUT SHE DID JUST GET BUSTED IN A BIG GROW OP FOR THE HELLS ANGELS AND NOW SHES OUT INSTEAD OF BEING HELD. IT COULD BE COINCEDENCE BUT I DONT THINK SO....
ReplyDeleteI don't believe Brittney was a rat. I think it's entirely possible but I don't believe it was true. Just like I don't believe Geoff stole from the Hells Angels. I think that was a story made up to rationalize what they did to him.
ReplyDeleteHowever, let's pause for a minute and reflect on what if what you say is true. You claim the grow op Brittney lived in was operated by the Hells Angels. You claim Brittney was a rat and that's why she was killed. That would mean the Hells Angels killed her for being a rat.
Personally, I think you have it half right. I just don't think she was a rat. I think she owed money and someone wanted to rip her off.
"1) Back off of Tammy and 2) Back off of Geoff. These are good people who were taken advantage of by bad people. "
ReplyDeleteGeoff was a drugdealing gangster. Tammy willing let her kids live with a drugdealing gangster.
If whatever happened to Geoff had happened to him in his home, they could all be dead too.
Why did Geoff & Tammy put these innocent children at risk? GREED! Greed to live in a nice house, drive fancy new pickup trucks, and not have to work.
Since when do you make excuses for scumbad drugdealing gangster that endanger the lives of innocent children for their own selfishness??
It's really suspicious how you so vehemently defend Geoff, even though you *never* talked to him, and all the facts & common sense are contrary to your "poor innocent" theory.
I defend Britney too. The point is even if these people sold drugs, they did not deserve to die. All you have to do is look at a few pictures of Geoff with his kids to see that he genuinely loved them. All you have to do is watch the news video of how sad his daughter was when she didn’t get what she wanted for Christmas – her Dad to be found.
ReplyDeleteTo my knowledge, Geoff didn’t sell crack. Selling juice and “protein” supplements is a far cry from selling crack. Britney selling pot to support her Oxy habit didn’t hurt anyone else like crack or meth does. Someone claims that the Queen pin stole 70 kg of cocaine and had Geoff sell it for him then blamed him for stealing it and had him killed. I have no idea if that is true or if Geoff did anything other than sell roids and launder money.
Laundering money from crack is not a good thing. Yet no one is perfect and the temptation to sell drugs in our difficult economy is intense. My point is, every time the Hells Angels kill someone they rationalize it by saying the person deserved it. My response to that is no they didn’t. Blaming the person the Hells Angels shot is simply kicking the cat and not addressing the real problem.
These people aren’t being shot by rivals. They are being shot by their own dirty crew. That is greed.
I do not believe Geoff Meisner was a gangster anymore than Britney was..... I think he was liked by all the different intertwined groups in Kelowna. Then something happened - a transaction of some kind went wrong and perhaps the ""Queen"" reacted before thinking, he has gotten away with it before. How can human life have so little meaning to him and to anyone that does his dirty work for him. Do you hear anyone's voice in your head when you close your eyes at night?
ReplyDeleteThat would indeed make the most sense. The grow op was raided and she had to come up with the money which she didn’t have. If that was the case, then her murder was bigger than Joey Verma. They did say she lived on a Hells Angels grow op that was busted. David Giles is a member of that club in Kelowna isn’t he?
ReplyDeleteI trained with Geoff at the gym, and worked with his younger brother. Both great men. Geoff didn't rip any one off he fronted pot ,and was never paid. He stepped up to the wrong person, he was told to let it go . Geoff didn't enough of your shots in the dark of what happened. It's sad for the family, where ever that man lies now. He , s looking over his family with love.
ReplyDeleteFor fuck sakes people Geoff did not steel any pot or have whores on the side. I trained with Geoff he was a loyal Family man with no street sense and worked with his younger brother Same guy. Geoff fronted pot ,and wasn't payed for it.He asked questions about getting his money ,but was told to take the loss. He stepped up to the wrong person as it was told. The man was a great father man and person he had no whores on the side, and was a great dad. Where ever he is he,s looking over his family protecting Tammy and there daughters.Gangs are pothetic low level and a sign of weekness in individual s. Pick your battles wisely, it's a dirty game.
ReplyDeleteTruth. I'd be interested in hearing more. I'm Agent K the author of this blog. Feel free to email me: letfreedomring@hotmail.com
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