Well this is certainly bringing it close to home. RCMP have foiled another pressure cooker bomb attack just like the ones used in the Boston Bombing false flag attack. Pressure cooker bombs? Really? With more ridiculous claims like this we’re going to have to look a little more closely at CSIS’ involvement in the Air India bombing.
Our liberty is lost as long as we let CSIS and the RCMP get away with these ridiculous claims. Did we ever find out what Graham Fuller had to do with the Boston bombing incident? Two self-radicalized Surrey residents were inspired by Al-Qaeda. Can it get any more ridiculous than that? OK so let's talk about CSIS and Air India. When will CSIS be criminally charged for their planing that event and providing the explosives for it? When?
Surrey criminals aren’t known for being very bright. They have a reputation for being stupid. This guy’s a drug addict who’s criminal history included mugging someone by hitting them over the head with a rock. Ya think this guy is going to know how to make a pressure cooker bomb? Not unless CSIS give him one. They’re going to have to do more than tell him how to make it. They’re gonna have to make it for him. Just like they did in the Toronto 18.
Just how many politically motivated Islamic fundamentalist drug addicts are there out there? I thought Islamic fundamentalists didn’t drink alcohol or do drugs? We know they wouldn’t have a criminal history because Islamic fundamentalists think someone should get their hand cut off if they stole something. This guy was a drug addicted petty thief. Not your typical politically motivated religious extremist. This lone wolf scam was created by Obama because they couldn't get away with falsely accusing organizations any more.
Speaking of Al-Qaeda, how is that oil pipeline in Afghanistan doing anyways? We know the opium trade is booming there now that the allies took over after the Taliban brought opium production to a grinding halt right before the invasion. I guess money talks and the bullsh*t never stops.
Reading today’s Vancouver Province was like the comic section took up the whole paper. I realize they are just reprinting the information the RCMP gave them but whatever happened to investigative journalism? The Kool aid Kid was even briefed before hand and seized the media opportunity to promote her absolute nonsense.
In the Toronto 18 case the RCMP produced a detailed video showing exactly what damage those kind of explosives could do. How did they know? They were the ones that gave it to them. It was entrapment. Air India was even worse. That was murder. The point is, the kids charged in the Toronto 18 did not have the technical ability to makes those kind of explosives. It was the RCMP that supplied them with the explosives just like in the Air India bombing.
Likewise, in this case, a Surrey crack head does not have the technical ability to make pressure cooker bombs. They would have had to make if for him. Giving him the money to buy the ingredients wouldn’t have been good enough. He would have spent the money on crack just like the RCMP agent in Cranbrook named John Garry Shanks . They gave him money to get rid of his facial tattoos so he would look more credible in court and he spent it on heroin. A Surrey crack head wouldn’t be buying brand new pressure cookers either. He’s dumpster dive for them. Even the rusty nails in the photos looked clean as though they were made rusty in a lab.
"The force was informed of the alleged plot in February by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, and a five-month investigation culminated with the arrests of two people in Abbotsford, B.C., on Monday, RCMP announced on Tuesday." Landlady claims “Someone is using them.”
Here’s an interesting point. A blog reader sends in this screen cap of the online court data base and said look at the dates. March 2 2013 John Stewart Nuttall was charged with conspiracy to commit an indictable offense. There are three charges under the same file number. March 2 2013 he was also charged with knowingly facilitate a terrorist activity. That charge was back in March 2013. Which makes this whole Canada Day bombing plot bullsh*t. June 25 he was charged with possession of explosive substance (Which CSIS gave him) but the initial terrorist charge was back on March 2nd. Suspiciously, this file number has now been removed from the online court database. Now you just see his other past record.
What can ya say. With a publicity stunt like this maybe even Christy Clark will finally win a seat in the West Kelowna by-election. Not to worry. Not even the Kool aid Kid can screw that one up. Just remember she lost in her own riding and someone else in a shoe in riding had to give up their seat for her. Come to think of it, wasn’t the VIA Rail BS plot also timed around a key vote? That was right before Harper and Trudeau passed an anti terrorist bill that threw away the Charter of Rights. The Green Party, the Bloc and the NDP opposed the bill. Elizabeth May said the bill was illegal because it violated the charter. No doubt. The timing of these publicity stunts is indeed suspicious.
"The motive for the bombing is unclear." No kidding. CSIS needs to be disbanded and charged with murder in the Air India bombing. They spend millions of tax dollars and refuse to report what they spend it on and have no public accountability whatsoever. That is not a free and democratic society. You can have military intelligence without CSIS. You can have police investigations without CSIS. Next on the list of illegal organizations is the Communications Security Establishment Canada (CSEC or CSE). Their mandate is to violate the Canadian Charter of rights.
Update: Individuals and members of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association have expressed the concern that the police bringing the press into the suspects’ home without a search warrant by permission of the landlady not the tenants was illegal. I do agree. Search warrants are really important. The more the police and government agencies refuse to get search warrants and trample the charter of rights, the more it diminishes all of us and makes the charter meaningless. I will follow up on this case in another post.
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"Phil Gibson is president of Beaumont Communications Inc., a public safety and security consultancy. He spent more than a decade in national security, as director-general of communications for the Canadian Security Intelligence Service. He began his career as a journalist working in provincial and national affairs." He's the enemy within.
He just wrote a bs article supporting CSIS' nonsense. He was the director-general of communications for the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, now runs a public safety and security consultancy front company for them and began his career as a journalist. Operation Mockingbird is in full effect. CSIS is the real enemy from within
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Nuttall's lawyer states that it is his understanding U.S. authorities were also involved and that there was some sort of "Mr. Big" component, wherein undercover agents pose as criminals to befriend and draw confessions from suspected criminals. US Intelligence agencies perhaps? Big surprise. And their handler said: We'll set everything up for you. All you have to do is say yes.
Actually neither. I am what the Irish refer to as a republican. I support a free republic. If I oppose slander against the Catholics, people automatically think I’m Catholic. If I oppose slander against the Hindus or Muslims, people assume I am Hindu or Muslim. I oppose anti Semitism and the holocaust too. That doesn’t make me Jewish. I support the freedom of religion and the US Constitution which is exactly what CSIS and the CIA are actively trying to destroy.
ReplyDeleteOn a matter of personal privileged, I will point out that I didn’t make up the story about CSIS’ involvement in the Air India bombing. That was the RCMP and the CBC who made that claim. CSIS had a handler who helped formulate the plot and CSIS pulled him out days before the bombing. The RCMP claimed CSIS pulled him out right before the bombing so they wouldn’t be implicated. Yet their handler was the one that provided the explosives for that attack. They are culpable. The fact that they pulled their handler out days before the attack means they could have stopped it but chose not to. After they set the plan in motion and provided the explosives.
ReplyDelete#RCMP are investigating the report of a possible person shot at Orchard Park Mall, 2271 Harvey Ave.
ReplyDeleteOh Kelowna… Someone on Castanet said it was a fight not a shooting but I haven’t heard anything official yet. Someone on the radio said a guy was shooting at random people in East Van today:
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ReplyDeleteSurrey Pre-trial corruption?
Thanks for the link. At least it was steroids not crack but it’s another stain on the system’s credibility.
DeleteI didn’t realize she deleted that comment nor did I realize who made it. I realize people expressed concerns about it and noticed that the Vancouver Sun ran an article where someone from the BC Civil Liberties Association claimed it was illegal. I think Kim was invited by the police so she accepted the invitation. I think the police and the landlady screwed up.
ReplyDeleteI know running a blog sets you up for a lot of attacks. I stopped approving all the personal attacks on my blog. It gets irritating after a while. Kim and I are different but Kim is a professional. There’s no disputing that. The tour of the suspects’ home crossed the line, I agree. A lot of things about the case and this new trend cross the line. Civil rights are beginning to disappear and we have to be vigilant to protect them.
I do think Kim pointed out that she did tour a Hells Angels clubhouse when she was invited. Kim sticks her neck out by reporting on the Hells Angels on a regular basis and she’s not anonymous like I am. I don’t think she’s a hypocrite. I think she believes the RCMP’s story and is printing it. Her stories do sell newspapers. It’s way better than Murdoch’s tabloid trash in England.
KIM KNEW IT WAS WRONG .... that is no defence ...
ReplyDeleteYeah, I don’t know... I think it’s one of those live and learn kind of things. I don’t think it’ll happen again. If it does then it should be challenged. I can’t really speak for her. When people trash me on her blog she just says bring it up with me. Kinda strange how the shoe is on the other foot for a change.
ReplyDeleteAlso hells angel club house tour was given by the hells angels . Big difference here . clear to see u r defending this and i feel there is no grey area in this , so we agree to disagree . at least u leave up the posts lol peace
ReplyDeleteYes in the Hells Angels tour she was invited in and that is indeed very different than this one because in that one she was invited by them and in this one the tenants were in custody. That is very different. I just mentioned it because you said she doesn’t tour HA’s homes. Touring a HA’s home without their permission or a search warrant would indeed be crossing the line. I’ve pretty much said my peace on the subject. I think the whole thing is a complete scam. However, I’m heading out with my kayak to enjoy the sun. Cheers.
ReplyDeleteone last comment . that tour was a gift for the defence ... i do agree with u that Kim does stick her neck out LOTS ,so thanks for reminding me of that .
ReplyDelete(This is a facebook post from a well known musician from Victoria, who knows the suspects in the "terror plot". Thought you might like to see what he had to say:)
ReplyDeleteSo what we have here is a full blown, new age style, totally homegrown, conspiracy theory. First let me tell you what I know about Johnny and Anna. I got to know them about 4 or 5 years ago. I think Johnny's younger 1/2 brother told me an incredible story about his brother who had played in a band that I remembered from back in the day. He had just done a stint in jail and was trying to get his life in order when he came down with a virus infection that destroyed all of the nerve endings in his entire body leaving him completely paralyzed. When the infection was gone his nerves grew back at their typically slow rate and he gradually started getting control of his body again. Of course he had to learn how to walk again, as well as everything else and had reached the point where he wanted to learn how to play guitar again. That's where I come in. Hearing this story I figured this guy could use a hand if any one did so I told his brother to send him over. When I met Johnny I was completely amazed by the guy. He could barely walk from his illness and needed two canes to get by, but even if he had been completely able bodied it would have been remarkable if he could walk with all of the drugs/painkillers/malt liquor that he consumed while he told me about himself. We played a bit of guitar and he was actually not too bad all things considering. Over the next year or so I got to know him and his girlfriend Anna quite well. Even though they were both spectacularly fucked up, I quite like them, and they were very sincere friends to me. Johnny really looked up to me, he loved my band, and he was quite clear that I was one of his heroes. I couldn't help but do my best to live up to his image of me. He told me about his early childhood which was the kind of nightmare so horrifying that no fiction could ever match it. He was sexually and physically abused in the most obscene way until he was able to fight back and escape. Even though he was damaged beyond imagination he managed to survive his teens, play in a handful of bands and in his own way, was successful at starting a career as a musician. His life had other plans for him though. He was tested in ways that very few of us have, and I doubt very many of us would be able to come back after any one of the series of life crushing blows that he took. Every time he made a step forward something would take him out. I had to admire the guy. He had simple goals, to be a touring musician, and nothing was going to stop him.
I'm not sure when he met Anna but they were shattered souls that doing there best to not only survive but to make music which makes them a lot more valuable to the world than you're average landfill feeding, tv watching , dual income, life wasters. At least in my distorted world view. They were both really messed up on dope in a way that rivaled Syd and Nancy. Even lighting a smoke was enough to get one or both of them to go up in flames. They would stagger over for their lessons holding each other up, and helping each other along, and not giving a flying fuck what anyone thought of them. They loved each other and it was all quite beautiful in it's bizarre, pain twisted way. Johnny was way to fucked up to get anyone to jam with him more than once or twice, so I told him that I would be honored to play drums for his band and I meant it. We were called "No World Order" and they few songs we got down were good and they showed an amazing concern for his "fellow man" and for the world in general, considering how he had been served nothing but the worst shit for every meal he had ever had. One day I noticed that he had taken up wearing makeup and various articles of women's clothing. I couldn't help but to make a few comments about his "new look" and I asked him if he had found a new way to pay for his drug habit. He assured me that all was good, he was now the lead guitarist for a local glam band called the Lust boys and he was proud as shit about it. I told him that I was very happy for his success and we worked on some flashy leads with lots of swept arpeggios and the likes that would impress the soft minded followers of that style of music (quite the arrogant snob aren't I, I am just kidding for the most part though, just trying to make like I stand for something that I believe in....sarcasm, the lowest form of humor, and the only one I am any good at). Anyway, even though he was a good at the job, he was just too bad ass for even those dastardly Lust Boys, and once they found out that his extensive criminal record wouldn't let him into the states let him go. At least he didn't get his arms and legs amputated or something similar like all of his others setbacks had given him. But he was disillusioned I think. Him and Anna decided to move to van and give it a go over there. It of course, didn't work out so good for them.
ReplyDeleteThey were on the streets in a heartbeat, but once again, there love for each other held and they started the slow climb up the slippery slopes that they had climbed so many times before. I only heard from them occasionally, but after a while they got an apartment out in the suburbs and were striving for the top (which is an awful long way when your'e that close to the bottom.) Now the last time I heard from them was 3 or 4 months ago. They phoned me to tell me that they had a phone and that they were still my solid friends. They also, as they always did, pretty well directly asked me If I thought less of them for any reason, and I assured them that I still and probably always would, consider them to be in the small group of people I call my real friends. I can't stress enough how much they both respected my opinion, they had both on multiple occasions confessed sins against each other as well as telling me pretty well their entire life story without sparing one humiliating detail. Strangely though, they didn't mention anything about Islam, or any new found faith, they told me how hard it had been to get a place. They had to go on methadone and really cut back on drinking, which was really hard because when they drank, they really wanted to shoot down, which is. if you;re wondering very dangerous. But not a word about Islam. I have very highly tuned intuition, and it feels somethings fishy here. It is even warning me to not be surprised if an attempt to link me to some terrorist like behavior also materializes. If it does, well, I have ridden that horse before, and I rocked it. Shit if the dayglos looked in any way like they were real terrorists, just as our new album comes out. Better than Obama taking out Bin Laden with his bare hands on election day for the win. We'd be bigger than the peoples republic of china. There's more than that though. I heard that Johnny with his uncanny ability to stagger into life threatening situations, had visited a website with a name like "Make Bombs with Al Queda" which to johnny probably sounded fun and educational, and the anti american slant's really punk too. Unfortunately word is the sites ran by the pigs...go figure. Word also is that they were like always, penniless, because even after years of addiction, they did not steal for their habits. I'm sure they did a bit because of their habits, but they proudly spent all of their money on drugs and booze. Which reminds me... isn't Islam a bit on the straight edge side for these two? But let's just say they saved up some money and bought all the materials required to make some big bombs. Get Fucked. I could see it now, "baby... you shot up all the fucking dope... no I didn't, you dropped it on the floor baby, you fucking did... oops smash, KaBoom!! big hole in Surrey, Nope they'd be making drugs if they were half that smart. Not Bombs. That sounds good eh.."Make Drugs not Bombs". Then, this one is good too, with absolutely no money, and no drivers licence. A couple of very strung out looking druggies, hell bent on killing some infidels, rented a fucking van, payed for the ferry, paid for gas, actually successfully drove to the ferry without an accident. Really. If this is what the new world order has to offer, we can all relax, there's gonna be no world order. Anyway, I'm gonna stand by my real and genuine friends on this one. Just like I know they would do for me. They have been setup. ...... By retards,
ReplyDeleteAnyone can make claims on facebook and although his claim they never mentioned Islam contradicts media claims (which is likely your point) it does reinforce the basic premise. They were addicts on the methadone program struggling to make ends meet. They didn’t have extra money to go around and buy a set of nice new pressure cookers. Their struggles with drugs that he described doesn’t really describe an over zealous religious extremist participating in a political cause. Even though that political cause remains a mystery since Canada has pulled out of Afghanistan. The motive remains a mystery.
DeleteI just want to reiterate that is a pretty amazing life story. Tragic really and it all adds to the fact that these charges fail the test of believability miserably.
DeleteAgent K: I too had responded to this story about the exact issues of the RCMP having more involvement, our rights being violated in the wake of these so called terrorist attacks and sure enough my comments were deleted.
ReplyDeleteToday in the Sun, I was not surprised to see that Martha Devlin is involved in this case. She is paid by Canadian tax dollars and spends her time creating Scenarios with the RCMP to set up vulnerable Canadians. Ie: This exact case. I am all for catching someone in the act, but this is complete bu** sh*t. She figures, these two are lowlifes who cares if they rot in jail for their entire life, and she looks like a hero. Bingo the RCMP have their budget.
Martha's MO is setting Canadians up, so she can look like a hero when she prosecutes them...although last few were some botched cases...lets just say putting the buggy before the horse.
This case makes me angry. Why not grab some mentally ill folks off Hastings and strap a bomb to them and bust them. It's pretty much what happened here except they were "groomed' by the police for a while...think that is the same thing predators do.
Canada is corrupt and it makes me sad. I thought we were better than this.
I think Martha Devlin has also done HA cases where real drugs have been seized. I’m not aware of the others. You make a good point about arresting some addict out of the DTES and strapping a bomb to them to call them a terrorist. This case is just wrong and unfortunately, it’s not the only one.
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