When I was growing up there were no Hells Angels in Vancouver but we had certainly heard of them. When I heard the name it carried with it a certain amount of respect. I didn't think of demons I thought these are the guys that keep the peace in Hell. They're tough enforcers so to speak.
When I heard the name I didn't think of Satan's Angels. That's kind of ridiculous. Why would anyone brag about that? It's not only juvenile, it's stupid. That's why I think bringing back Satan's Choice is a bad idea. Call it anything but that.
Grown men running around with a cartoon drawing of the Devil on their back is like getting a giant L tattooed on your forehead. Remember that guy that got devil horn implants and had the number 666 tattooed on his forehead? He didn't look scary he looked like an absolute mental case. Q plus alright.
Adam Hall forced three women into prostitution and threatened a 16 year old girl so she would send him nude pictures of herself. Adam Hall was a POS which brings us to a line in an AC/DC song. Hells Bells says "If you're into evil, you're a friend of mine." That's pretty stupid. Pedophiles are evil. If you're a pedophile you're my friend? I think not.
The line in the song doesn't make sense because there is all kinds of evil I certainly wouldn't want to associate with. The statement is open ended like Q+. There're no lines and no boundaries. Kinda like the saying "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law." Not.
This is a new era. Bringing back stupid isn't cool. Young teenagers used to like to wear a Heavy Metal T-Shirt with a picture of the Devil on it to shock people. Yet anyone with a brain knows that's ridiculous. Satan represents slavery and oppression. There's nothing noble or admirable about it.
What ever happened to the Ghetto Gospel? Tupac left us with this profound pledge and all these fake rappers ran in the wrong direction. Ja Rule said let the Ghetto Gospel go forward into every hood possible. That's because no unhallowed hand will stop the truth from being declared in every hood on earth.
Preaching the gospel serves two purposes. To gather the righteous and to warn the wicked. Like Enoch did before the flood. "For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch."
As Vincent Price said in the intro to Iron Maiden's 666 The Number of the Beast "Woe to you, oh Earth and Sea For the Devil sends the beast with wrath Because he knows the time is short." The Devil knows he's going to lose. So he's going to try and drag as many people as he can down with him.
So warning the wicked is one thing but gathering the righteous is another. Wickedness never was happiness. Love, joy and peace are fruits of the spirit. We can't feel love, joy or peace without the spirit and we can't have the spirit unless we strive to do good. Clown shoes for the clown patch to go with the clown nose. A saute to the lost boys in Never Never land who refused to grow up. It was nice knowing ya. Not.
As we have always seen, those who fight against a lawful society shall fight amongst themselves and they shall be drunk with their own blood. Greed kills. It's not worth it kids. It's just not worth it. Turn back oh man... forswear thy foolish ways.
You'd be surprised to hear the many true stories of alot of these so called tough guys. They have out right chickened out on multiple occasions and Ive seen it for myself many times. If you know you know. Most if not almost all of these guys are cowards with the very odd exception who are actually tough guys. That is why they have to put on the tough guy and join an mc and show thay they are tough is because they know themselves they are cowards. Most ride off the name and fear their patch gives them and even that isn't nearly what it used to be. I know a few before they became members and if they were known to have done what they did before they became members they wouldn't have even been able to be a hangaround. It's funny when you look at them now and they are thinking they are untouchable.
Harley G's father was an accomplished boxer. In BC the sentiment used to be one HA could take on seven guys. Now 7 HAs will jump one guy just because. It's where the gang becomes bullies. Larry Amero was incredibly buff but could he box? Evidently not. Steroids don't make you bullet proof.
He could not. He was in a bar somewhere here in Van, hitting on a guys wife right in front of him. Guy told him to piss off. Amero puffed up about do you know who I am and got himself knocked out. By a boxer.
Yes I am familiar with that story. That's why I said evidently not. I am also told that the next day a couple of HAs took the boxer for a ride and said if he ever did that again they would kill him. So again the arrogant bully mentality prevailed.
I agree the old schoolers had a way higher % of tough guys no question. Talking about the newer guys who patched up like mid 90s on. Alternatively I know lots of lone wolves these mc terrified of. Steroids only give a false sense of security and besides when stop lose all your size. I know I competed for years and did my share.
I have had the inclination for awhile now that a role 81 plays in society is to keep the peace in hell (along with other rolls obviously). Do you believe that that is still part of their mission statement?
I used to. Not any more. Now I see the organization for what it is. Sadly it's just a drug trafficking Ponzi scheme. Not all members sell drugs but usually it's one member under the direction of the local president. That's why they keep expanding. New presidents want a piece of the pie.
Sonny Barger's VP wrote a book and said the purpose of forming new chapters was to open up new drug trafficking areas. The organization is fairly democratic. That's why you have so much politicking going on to remove political rivals. For the most part it's all about making money. The other members like to hang around for rides and parties.
I would say since the mid 90s it became about money only or 90/10 if you will where as prior to that is was 10/90 for actually loving riding bikes and the lifestyle of freedom and off grid life of an outlaw. Ya money played a part but not to the point they letting in guys that have no business being in mc just because they earners they get in. It's so polluted now with envy and jealousy within the mc itself. I also heard that incident with Amero. It's attracted that type of guy and not those who are the real serous outlaws as all those guys are to wise to the mc corruption that that stay away from it. Know a few of these guys would terrify any member of any mc aside from those few exceptions. Saw the fakeness and sold my bike in the early 2000s fanboys all wanted bikes and to be in mc. Surprised they haven cut larry loose yet he's a massive liability but I guess he is willing to deal with the drugs for them.
Extremely insecure scared men who are still in their early 20s emotionally stunted masking it with bravado and pretending to have this brotherhood when they all are just reliving high-school level drama or maybe they are naive and believe the lies or maybe they know the lies and just are there to work the angles for themselves. I think there is a mix of types and motives for being in mc but they all have some common links as well. It's beyond embarrassing when I see these guys and most of them you can just tell this is all they have going for them which is saying alot.
I don't know anything about him other than the fact that the MO of his murder was exactly like the HAs in Vancouver back in 1995. I'd call it devious not professional. https://gangstersout.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-in-vancouver-1995.html
Why don't the police list all the members with their faces? Is it because they aren't being seriously pursued then? Ricky C used to meet up with the cops back in the ol days. They clearly rat on their rivals and anyone else they can use to deflect attention away from themselves.
The rumours at the time were that Nestlé wanted him dead because he wouldn’t sell his water rights to the springs on his property. Either SC or the Italians (possibly both) arranged the murder. However they got the C-4 is super shady, def had powerful connections. There would have been a lot of money involved in that hit.
C-4 isn't even used in the commercial blasting business, strictly military or law enforcement. Not that law enforcement has or needs any of it. 1%'ers are known for theft of military stuff like that, but C-4 being used should definitely have been of interest to investigators, if there were any, and if they were actually interested in finding anything.
Stealing C-4 from the military is highly unlikely. No one knows where that stuff is as it's very uncommon. It had to have come from CSIS or the RCMP like in the Surrey Pressure Cooker sting.
It's used in military demolitions training along with other military grade explosives such as RDX all the time. That said, I believe you're correct, the latter is more likely than the former.
I wouldn't say all the time. It would depend on what area you were serving in. Most soldiers would never see it. If you were in demolition then of course you would. Nevertheless, I don't believe they stole it from the military. I believe it was provided to them just like the pressure cooker fraud in Surrey.
Growing up in "Vancouver" paints this entire broadcast with a brisk salt water ocean hue of decomposition, failed to mention cold hard facts - turned a usually transparent, obviously tide sided, reiteration of perceived facts into a lobyist perspective, If I was smart enough I'd care more about plucking feathers then fabricating romantic wishes of us still being together, but I am not. So. Tuck this one into your cap, trade the mirror in for a ladder. And if ya can't hold on then hold on. I'm still learning how to swim in the depend too.
Dennis I was wondering about who this Harley Quinn was but I get it now its Harley Guinden. So he left the ha to start sc again? Hes talking on demons row interview like he is going to just expand over the internet and talking about bringing back the brotherhood which we all know doesnt exist. Im surprised the ha are allowing this. Its a cornball name and cornball patch but really at the end of the day they all are. They are l8ke metal bands and all trying to out do the other one for the most evil meanest sounding name and logo lmao
I don't know, I don't care. Harley Q is a nickname for Harley G. Demons row - GMAFB. I have no interest in what a wannabe podcast who idolizes the life has to say. I have no interest in that life. At all. I don't covet that life like they do. Harley Quinn is a drama queen airing his dirty laundry in public trying to build a name for himself over the internet and on social media. He's not doing it without the club's support, he's doing it with a different chapter's support. I don't think Andres is out in bad. Quinn is kissing the Cub Pack's a*s which is pathetic. They say Iron Order is a cop club. Well Satan's Choice is a CSIS club. That's my take on it.
You'd be surprised to hear the many true stories of alot of these so called tough guys. They have out right chickened out on multiple occasions and Ive seen it for myself many times. If you know you know. Most if not almost all of these guys are cowards with the very odd exception who are actually tough guys. That is why they have to put on the tough guy and join an mc and show thay they are tough is because they know themselves they are cowards. Most ride off the name and fear their patch gives them and even that isn't nearly what it used to be. I know a few before they became members and if they were known to have done what they did before they became members they wouldn't have even been able to be a hangaround. It's funny when you look at them now and they are thinking they are untouchable.
BalasPadamHarley G's father was an accomplished boxer. In BC the sentiment used to be one HA could take on seven guys. Now 7 HAs will jump one guy just because. It's where the gang becomes bullies. Larry Amero was incredibly buff but could he box? Evidently not. Steroids don't make you bullet proof.
PadamHe could not. He was in a bar somewhere here in Van, hitting on a guys wife right in front of him. Guy told him to piss off. Amero puffed up about do you know who I am and got himself knocked out. By a boxer.
PadamYes I am familiar with that story. That's why I said evidently not. I am also told that the next day a couple of HAs took the boxer for a ride and said if he ever did that again they would kill him. So again the arrogant bully mentality prevailed.
PadamI agree the old schoolers had a way higher % of tough guys no question. Talking about the newer guys who patched up like mid 90s on. Alternatively I know lots of lone wolves these mc terrified of. Steroids only give a false sense of security and besides when stop lose all your size. I know I competed for years and did my share.
BalasPadamI have had the inclination for awhile now that a role 81 plays in society is to keep the peace in hell (along with other rolls obviously). Do you believe that that is still part of their mission statement?
BalasPadamI used to. Not any more. Now I see the organization for what it is. Sadly it's just a drug trafficking Ponzi scheme. Not all members sell drugs but usually it's one member under the direction of the local president. That's why they keep expanding. New presidents want a piece of the pie.
PadamSonny Barger's VP wrote a book and said the purpose of forming new chapters was to open up new drug trafficking areas. The organization is fairly democratic. That's why you have so much politicking going on to remove political rivals. For the most part it's all about making money. The other members like to hang around for rides and parties.
I would say since the mid 90s it became about money only or 90/10 if you will where as prior to that is was 10/90 for actually loving riding bikes and the lifestyle of freedom and off grid life of an outlaw. Ya money played a part but not to the point they letting in guys that have no business being in mc just because they earners they get in. It's so polluted now with envy and jealousy within the mc itself. I also heard that incident with Amero. It's attracted that type of guy and not those who are the real serous outlaws as all those guys are to wise to the mc corruption that that stay away from it. Know a few of these guys would terrify any member of any mc aside from those few exceptions. Saw the fakeness and sold my bike in the early 2000s fanboys all wanted bikes and to be in mc. Surprised they haven cut larry loose yet he's a massive liability but I guess he is willing to deal with the drugs for them.
PadamBirds of a feather flock together.
BalasPadamExtremely insecure scared men who are still in their early 20s emotionally stunted masking it with bravado and pretending to have this brotherhood when they all are just reliving high-school level drama or maybe they are naive and believe the lies or maybe they know the lies and just are there to work the angles for themselves. I think there is a mix of types and motives for being in mc but they all have some common links as well. It's beyond embarrassing when I see these guys and most of them you can just tell this is all they have going for them which is saying alot.
PadamWhat do you know about Wayne Greavette? Highly professional hit. Thank it was Satan’s Choice or no?
BalasPadamI don't know anything about him other than the fact that the MO of his murder was exactly like the HAs in Vancouver back in 1995. I'd call it devious not professional.
Padamhttps://gangstersout.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-in-vancouver-1995.html
He was killed with C-4. Having access to that shit is pretty damn professional, I’d say.
PadamWhy don't the police list all the members with their faces? Is it because they aren't being seriously pursued then? Ricky C used to meet up with the cops back in the ol days. They clearly rat on their rivals and anyone else they can use to deflect attention away from themselves.
PadamIf they used C4 then CSIS was directly involved.
PadamThe rumours at the time were that Nestlé wanted him dead because he wouldn’t sell his water rights to the springs on his property. Either SC or the Italians (possibly both) arranged the murder. However they got the C-4 is super shady, def had powerful connections. There would have been a lot of money involved in that hit.
PadamC-4 isn't even used in the commercial blasting business, strictly military or law enforcement. Not that law enforcement has or needs any of it. 1%'ers are known for theft of military stuff like that, but C-4 being used should definitely have been of interest to investigators, if there were any, and if they were actually interested in finding anything.
BalasPadamStealing C-4 from the military is highly unlikely. No one knows where that stuff is as it's very uncommon. It had to have come from CSIS or the RCMP like in the Surrey Pressure Cooker sting.
PadamIt's used in military demolitions training along with other military grade explosives such as RDX all the time. That said, I believe you're correct, the latter is more likely than the former.
PadamI wouldn't say all the time. It would depend on what area you were serving in. Most soldiers would never see it. If you were in demolition then of course you would. Nevertheless, I don't believe they stole it from the military. I believe it was provided to them just like the pressure cooker fraud in Surrey.
PadamGrowing up in "Vancouver" paints this entire broadcast with a brisk salt water ocean hue of decomposition, failed to mention cold hard facts - turned a usually transparent, obviously tide sided, reiteration of perceived facts into a lobyist perspective, If I was smart enough I'd care more about plucking feathers then fabricating romantic wishes of us still being together, but I am not. So. Tuck this one into your cap, trade the mirror in for a ladder. And if ya can't hold on then hold on. I'm still learning how to swim in the depend too.
PadamDennis I was wondering about who this Harley Quinn was but I get it now its Harley Guinden. So he left the ha to start sc again? Hes talking on demons row interview like he is going to just expand over the internet and talking about bringing back the brotherhood which we all know doesnt exist. Im surprised the ha are allowing this. Its a cornball name and cornball patch but really at the end of the day they all are. They are l8ke metal bands and all trying to out do the other one for the most evil meanest sounding name and logo lmao
BalasPadamI don't know, I don't care. Harley Q is a nickname for Harley G. Demons row - GMAFB. I have no interest in what a wannabe podcast who idolizes the life has to say. I have no interest in that life. At all. I don't covet that life like they do. Harley Quinn is a drama queen airing his dirty laundry in public trying to build a name for himself over the internet and on social media. He's not doing it without the club's support, he's doing it with a different chapter's support. I don't think Andres is out in bad. Quinn is kissing the Cub Pack's a*s which is pathetic. They say Iron Order is a cop club. Well Satan's Choice is a CSIS club. That's my take on it.
Padam