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Wednesday, November 18, 2009
Red Scorpions and the Hells Angels
Jason Brown was described by police as an associate of the East End Hells Angels when he was arrested as part of E Pandora. Yet, he was just found with 2 kilos of cocaine, one kilo of meth, guns, vests and Red Scorpion gear. http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Gangster+facing+drug+charges+former+Hells+Angels+associate/2234496/story.html
Some speculate he has changed affiliations but I disagree. I think this confirms my earlier suspicions about the Surrey Six Murder. In the Surrey Six murder the founding members of the Red Scorpions were executed along with two innocent bystanders. Before that we are told the Red Scorpions were affiliated with the UN.
My theory is that the Bacon brothers are the ones who changed affiliation and wanted to take over the Red Scorpion leadership to make them associates of the Hells Angels just like the change over in the Independent Solders did. Police claim the IS are now associates of the Hells Angels but they certainly weren't in the beginning.
If this is true, then we can clearly see who is really responsible for the violence in the Vancouver gang war.
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i thought 4 un gang members died in the surrey six not is
ReplyDeletei mean rs
ReplyDeletei mean red scorpion
ReplyDeleteFour Red Scorpions died in the Surety Six. They were the founding members who were aligned with the UN. We are told they are part of the RS that the Haney HA’s had beef with. Now the RS appear to be under new leadership and it smells like Bacon gone bad.
ReplyDeleteI thnk they wasted 6 people a few monts ago
DeleteWhat makes it confusing is that RS isn't one gang anymore. I've heard news sources say Bacons were leaders, some said Mike Le was, and now you're saying Surrey 6 victims. Truth is RS started out as a street gang of teenagers, but are now in each city there are 1 or two different sects each with it's own leader. I guess you can compare to an extent to LA as to how bloods are considered a gang, but there are different sets, cliques, crews and what not that often contradict or fight against one another.
ReplyDeleteI think the Bacons took over the leadership of the RS, they weren’t the original leadership. Bacons were with the new Hells Angels friendly IS at Castle Fun Park wearing body armor.
ReplyDeleteKim Bolan originally reported in May 2008 that one of the dead gangsters in the Surrey Six, Eddie Narong, had gone to jail for manslaughter in 2000 with other associates who later formed the Red Scorpions. http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=ff64ddcf-eed2-452f-8858-5bddc62576ae
Raphael Baldini was the person who rented the penthouse suite in Surrey’s Balmoral Tower. He was gunned down in the Guildford Mall parking lot. Nicole Marie Alemy was the Surrey mother executed in her car while her 4 year old son watched. She was friends with Baldini and her husband had UN affiliations.
Jimmy (Grover) Lee was a Red Scorpion drug dealer with ties to the UN who also ended up dead. Clearly we see that the Red Scorpions who were affiliated with the UN were shot leaving the new leadership to be affiliated with the Hells Angels.
Okay, Anonymous is right (this is a different anonymous). RS is a multiple faction, large scale crime group (I wouldn't call it a gang anymore) with varying levels of organization and different leadership. The original RS was a bunch of Vietnamese kids out of Coquitlam, Burnaby and East Van. Mike Le and Eddie Narong being good examples. The factioning of RS began early, with Eddie testifying against Mike in the manslaughter trial. Now RS, while multiple factions, can be described as two main "groups"; you have the "asian side" RS, which run around still in COQ, Burnaby, EV, New West, and parts of Surrey, and you have the "Bacon Side" RS, or "Valley Side" RS, which run around Mission, Maple Ridge, Abby, and etc. These would be your HA associates and the major shooters. The Asians (they have white members, Taras as an example), like all Asian Crime Groups, would prefer everyone just shut the fuck up and made some money. They also don't get along with each other, although are not at the point of shooting each other.
ReplyDeleteThat sounds about right. “The ‘Bacon Side’ RS, or ‘Valley Side’ RS, which run around Mission, Maple Ridge, Abby, and etc. These would be your HA associates and the major shooters.” That would be my point. The ones that are the HA associates are the major shooters and are the ones ultimately responsible for the gang violence just like within the IS.
ReplyDeleteits seems to me that the HA are using the bacon bros/rs to get at the un but the un associate with the HA, why dont the un relize whats going on
ReplyDeleteI agree with you on both counts. I think it’s because the Hells Angels are such good liars. Who would think a guy like Larry would play both sides? At first we thought Larry was kissing UN a*s when he let his old fling Sarah ride with the UN to do the hit on the Bacons outside Tbarz. Then we hear what John Punko and Ron Lising really said about the UN when they were taped by an informant.
ReplyDeleteThen you have that former cop Rob Sidhu who used fraud to locate the Bacon brothers after they moved. He appears to be connected to Matt the Rat. The Sun claimed Mat the Rat works for Sidhu’s security firm. Go figure. Anyways, Matt the Rat brags about being friends with Rob Shannon and Weird Hal Porteous and was seen with Elliot Castaneda in Mexico before Elliot was shot dead there.
To me it’s as clear as day but they call me a conspiracy theorist. Ya gotta wonder why they would use their contacts to give the UN the Bacon’s new address and let Sarah Treble ride with them to do the hit on them when Punko and Lising said the UN aren’t welcome in the entire province and they will pound anyone who does business with them. It’s all very suspicious indeed.
Especially when Larry Amero’s friends are Bacon brother friends. What was the Bacons doing at Tbarz anyways? Were they invited? With friends like that, who needs enemies.
I think you're wrong about HA being responsible for all this. HA are what are known as "high-level" or "top-level" and RS, UN, and IS are known as "mid-level" although UN was working its way up. "Top-level" gangsters do NOT want people getting shot left right and center, there's way too much money involved for them, and it brings attention to their otherwise fairly quietly ran businesses. Notice how Big Circle is COMPLETELY uninvolved. HA retaliates when someone treads on their toes, but for the most part, they are sitting back praying for fucking fireworks to end so they can get on with their day.
ReplyDeleteSounds like more spin to me. You can’t bring all that cocaine into the country and not be responsible for what happens when it hits the street. However, I do think it is more direct than that. Of course Hells Angels hire someone else to do their hits so they don’t get caught but their obsession with puppet clubs has become big business. Once they get one strip club they want them all. Once they get one grow op they want them all. Look at how the Hells Angels took over the Death Riders in Laval after their president was shot. It’s the same MO.
ReplyDeleteNo, I disagree, it's completely different from Laval. Vancouver is completely different from Laval, it's too big, and it's a major Pacific port. Montreal is bigger, and is also a port, but it's totally different, they don't have the diverse, poor, ethnic community that we have. The most gangster people in the Lower Mainland are Sikhs, they run like the mafia. Kim and the Police think they are only just getting organized, but they have been organized for 20 years. Notice how the bosses are like 50... and they're all family... they're just like the Italians in New York, and all those businesses in South Van and Surrey pay homage. I grew up in South Van, trust me, I know. And the crimes they do are like the mafia too, they aren't just limited to drug dealing like HA, they are into extortion and robberies too. When was the last time you heard of a Hells Angel knocking off a jewellery store for a couple million... happens all the time by East Indians. If I was going to blame anyone for the mass violence going on, I'd blame East Indians and white kids outta abby.
ReplyDeleteNow I know you’re a spin doctor. Blaming everything on the Sikhs. They had their day but all the Sikh leadership in the IS were shot or died in car accidents. It’s amazing Parminder Pete survived when he was recently shot 20 times. Now the new IS are mostly buff white guys that pledge allegiance to the HAs like the ones with the Bacons at the Castle fun park in Kevlar meeting. The HA’s are the ones that play the race card and blame everything on the Asians and the Indo Canadians. Yet they still use both to do their work.
ReplyDeleteThe biggest gang problem we have now in BC are with the white gangs supplying and pulling the strings of the smaller gangs. The gang war isn’t about knocking off jewelry stores. It’s about fighting over the drug trade just like in Montreal. Who do you think the white guys in Abbotsford are connected to? South Van may have some other stuff going on but no offence, South Van isn’t the root of the problem. Abby, Surrey, East Van – that’s the root of the problem and it’s all about crack.
However, extortion in South Van or Newton/Delta, if it does exist, is clearly another issue that should be addressed.
ill give anyone 5k for the name of this goof that writes this website
ReplyDeleteAnd why would you want that? To shoot me in the back like the reported from Montreal? How brave.
ReplyDeleteTop Level Gangs -
ReplyDelete-Hells Angels
-Big Circle
-14K Triad
-Kung Lok Triad
Mid-Level
-Independent Soldiers
-United Nations Gang
-Metro Van Red Scorpion
-Valley Red Scorpion (Bacons)
-Many other unnamed independent gangs
no id like to see your face and post it up all over the internet so your family can suffer ya goof. 5k for anyone to tell me who this clown is
ReplyDelete^ LOL what a goof
ReplyDeleteWhat a goof is right. Do you have any idea how pathetic it looks when a bully plays the victim? You want my family to suffer. How about Eileen Mohan or Louise Russo? Do you care about their suffering? A Hells Angel from Toronto, Paris Hilton, teams up with a deadbeat who used to drive for a real gangster and ends up shooting an innocent bystander in a sandwich shop. They paralyzed a mother because they had absolutely no regard for public safety.
ReplyDeletePride cometh before the fall. When gangs refuse to respect public safety the public will lose respect for them. Sure they’ll fear them but they won’t respect them. There’s a big difference. When gangs do public executions and harm innocent bystanders, the public will break the silence and rat them out. Mark my word.
BTW I don’t have to pay anyone anything to give me your pictures. They do it for free. Ya know why? Because you’re an asshole. People don’t like you. You threaten someone’s grandmother and you think people will respect that? You threaten to rape my daughter and you think people will respect that? You don’t have a clue.
hey buddy, quit writing about my fucking crew or i will, through your IP address, find out who your service provider is, and through your service provider, give 10k to someone who works there, and find out who you are... no threats, nothing, just a little piece of advice, no more writign about RS, or UN, or HA, just shut up and go write about the canucks or something. At least Kim Bolan has some balls, although she'll probably not in a few years, but whatever, either publish your articles legitamitely, or piss off, and get rid of the gang member registry, that shits liablous and I will get people who are on there to sue you my son.
ReplyDeleteYou don’t give a fuck about any of those people. Exactly. That’s my point. That’s why this web site exists and that’s why people will rat your ass out. Because you don’t give a shit about anyone else and threatening someone’s grandmother or threatening to rape someone’s daughter is fucked up. 5k does buy a lot when you’re buying a crack head but just remember it only buys another score. It doesn’t buy loyalty.
ReplyDeleteThere is nothing libelous on my web site. Posting a link to a news article about a charged or convicted criminal is not slander, it’s the truth. You can’t sue someone for telling the truth. That is my charter right. And I don’t trash talk the UN. I don’t support selling crack but at least the UN aren’t LIARS like the HA’s and the new Bacon RS are. Red Lobsters are gonna get fried.
5k 5k 5k 5k 5k 5k 5k 5k 5k 5k i swear on my balls if ANYONE gives out the name of this good ill pay u 5k nice lil xmas bonus u might say. crack head or just a persin fed up with this guys childish slander. tic toc tic toc GOOF
ReplyDeleteYou’re the fuck up. Gang members don’t fight one on one. Any 12 year old kid can pull a trigger. My name is the Grim Reaper. You can pay me now or you can pay me later but mark my word you will pay me. For all the daughters you’ve raped and all the murders you’ve bought, the time will come for you to pay that debt. Mark my word. DFFD
ReplyDeletePeter Leask is pissing a lot more people off with his treason. No skin beef charges? You mean rape? The Hells Angels do. Who do you think the puppets work for? Except the UN, they aren’t puppets but the others are. As for IP numbers, don’t you think the po po can get a warrant for your ip number on this blog? Your uttering threats is proving the case for criminal organization legislation. A real gangster would just shut the fuck up.
ReplyDeleteThank you for providing the po po with just cause to get a warrant for your ip number. Brain surgery must have been your second career choice.
ReplyDeletehahahahahaha agent k im a new anonymous but arent u concerned for your family ??? like i know u think your doing a great thing here but theres reporters for that. all your doing is pissing ALOT of people off and for what?? its not benefiting your family in ANYWAY not financialy thats for sure. answer me this what if one day your name does get out and god for bid something did happen to your wife or kid would all of this been worth it ???? u should really think about that.. just like this physco above me said it is just a matter of time your posting peoples pictures mentioning there familys im sorry to tell u but im agreeing with this guy your clock is running short my friend.
ReplyDeleteYour statement and the one above it is proof why this web site is so necessary. Threatening my family says it all. That is a criminal organization. People don’t respect people who threaten their family. It just angers them and creates more violence.
ReplyDeletegood luck with that. pretty selfish if u ask me i know i couldnt live with myself if my daughter got raped or killed or my wife when i was the one that caused it. fuck no
ReplyDeletewhoa i never said that i said what if what that guy said comes tru how could u live with yourself and for what just to make a website to piss people off ???? like i said hope it doesnt happen but like that guy said it is just a matter of time before your name does get out there and i sure in the hell wouldnt want to be in your shoes especially for something that your not getting paid to do. wow like i said good luck with the pissing people off for free deal hahahaha
ReplyDeleteNot all the Anonymous posters are the same man. Your mixing them up.
ReplyDeleteThe rat sold crack and had a friend shot in the back. If you were connected you’d know. You don’t because you’re not. You’re a fake. You’re the rat.
ReplyDeleteYou wouldn’t know a real man if you ever met one. Guys who are obsessed with anal intercourse are gender confused.
ReplyDeletehahahahahahahahahahaha is that the best u got????? tell michelle i say hi
ReplyDeleteWho shall I say is calling?
ReplyDeleteThat’s what I thought. Who’s the bitch now? Just for the record, I’m a single parent. There’s no Michelle here. Just so you don’t shoot or rape the wrong guy’s wife. I wouldn’t be doing this if I was married and my kids are old enough to fend for themselves now.
ReplyDeleteYup that’s right. Just didn’t want ya to shoot or rape the wrong person. Except she didn’t leave me for another man… Won’t get into details. We all have issues. Some of us more than others.
ReplyDeleteI’m just disappointed the boys sell crack. I can see the temptation for the money. I just don’t like what crack does to a community including what it does to the addicts. Riding is great. Riding in formation is awesome. I just wish that’s what it was about. Most of the boys around here don’t even ride.
ReplyDeleteMy ex also got freaked out about guns at home. She was fine at first but got all freaked out when I bought a Desert Eagle. I don’t understand what the difference was. She shot a .45 and a 12 gauge at the gun range. The Dessert Eagle’s an awesome hand gun. Interchangeable barrel between .357 and .44 magnum, laser sight that fits on the trigger. I was pissed I had to sell it.
I never said she left me for another woman. I said she didn’t leave me for another man. 50% of marriages fail. Guns in the house was one of her concerns but she had many. Owning a firearm doesn’t make me or anyone else hard. Like I said any 12 year old kid can pull a trigger. I like to go to the gun range and blow shit up. I don’t like to hunt or shoot people. I guess that makes me a bitch. But some of us are single by choice. Sometimes someone wants to get back together and the person says no fucking way. That’s a choice I can certainly live with.
ReplyDeletegood luck guys his ip address is hosted by google and his ip is accordingly being bounced around the states but is based out of atlanta georgia you need an insider at google to get is contact information because he will have an account with themto have this blog andit will have his contact info
ReplyDeleteyou really need to stfu our boys have no problem dealing with a goof like u who runs their mouth about shit they have no idea about id get smart and start running now cause when we find u your done have fun
ReplyDeleteThat sure sounds like a threat to me.
ReplyDeleteGang- A group of youngsters or adolescents who associate closely, often exclusively, for social reasons, especially such a group engaging in delinquent behaviour.
ReplyDeleteGang- A group of sexually, physically or mentally abused boys that cling to each other due to a lack of love from their families.
Instead of joining your friends in the real world, you opt to sell dime bags of weed in attempts to build an empire, only to spend your life looking over your shoulder and to be dead by the age of thirty one.
Can I be Tony Montana today?
Join us in the real world and be constructive citizens, therapy is not that expensive when you have a job with benefits.
Thank you for your time; now get back to the schoolyard and terrorize some kids.
Where's Brown at now?
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure that was quite a while ago.
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