Saturday, October 7, 2023

Hamas raided Israel

Update: Israel accused of using white phosphorus on civilians

CBC is reporitng that "Backed by a barrage of rockets, dozens of Hamas militants broke out of the blockaded Gaza Strip and into nearby Israeli towns, killing scores and abducting others in an unprecedented surprise early-morning attack during a major Jewish holiday on Saturday."

Maybe you can now understand why they want a wall. There is no way to justify or rationalize that attack. The Palestinians are not the original inhabitants of Gaza the Philistines are. They were wiped out by the Babylonians. West Bank has valid land claims but Gaza are obtuse.
I realize this is a very sensitive issue because there are very strong feelings on both sides of this conflict. However, IMO the conflict in Israel is very simple. Both sides want to wipe the other side off the face of the earth. No one wants to share. That may seem to be an over simplification but that is clearly the root of the conflict and the fact that two wrongs don't make a right.

Kidnapping civilians is haram so clearly religion has nothing to do with it. This is about politics. Likewise forced evictions has nothing to do with Zionism. That is not kosher. Both are wrong.

Now I realize I'm nobody. I'm just a stranger from a far country. I'm not a Muslim. I'm not a Jew. I'm not even a good Christian. I'm nobody but I have been to Israel. I worked on a Kibbutz in Israel when I was young and tried to do some fundraising for the Oasis of Peace because that is a cause I believe in. I'm from Vancouver where Jews and Muslims get along just like they're supposed to. Here nobody cares what religion you're from. That's what religious freedom means.

My feelings for Israel and for Palestine are similar to Gandalf's feelings for Morai in the Lord of the Rings. Somehow I think it will be the death of me. As Orlando Bloom said in the movie Kingdom of Heaven, Jerusalem drives men mad. It's like the O'Neils in Northern Ireland and the red hand of Ulster. You guys are crazy. If you want the land that bad you can have it. I will find some place else to live. However, in the spirit of truth and justice we must look at the facts.

The Palestinians in Gaza are just plain obnoxious. However, the Palestinians in the West Bank are facing forced evictions. That is wrong. Joshua did not conquer all of Israel. He was commanded to vex not the stranger that sojourneth with thee. Israel is breaking that commandment in West Bank. Like I say, it's none of my business. I'm just stating the truth.

The rest of the world is concerned because we all know that is where Armageddon will eventually take place. All the armies of the world will gather against Israel. Israel will be conquered and Jerusalem will be placed under siege for three and a half years. Two false prophets will rise with power to call fire down from heaven and will deceive many.

Two true prophets will stand against them and be killed for their testimony. Their dead bodies will lie in the street and the people will throw a party. There will be a silence in heaven and when the enemies of righteousness are ripe in their decadence they will be literally wiped off the face of the earth. The birds of the air will feed on their carcasses. He that hath an ear to hear, let him hear.

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  1. Hamas is a Mossad operation.

    You realize the media here is dishonest, but trust the media in foreign country?

    This is how those that govern/farm men operate: Problem, Reaction, Solution.

    If Israel wants to invade Palestine and steal more land or so whatever other objectives, what do they need to do to gain support? They need to be attacked.

    Now watch as this whole situation will do nothing but help Israel (other than those dead, obviously, if the numbers are even correct), and hirt Palestine.

    For a truther, you sure have poor discernment.

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    1. When I fist heard this I thought it must be a false flag operation like the USS Liberty was. However, Hamas is not Mossad. That is ridiculous. The inhabitants of Gaza are mental cases. As soon as Israel pulls out and gives them more autonomy, they start randomly firing rockets into Israel from the rooftops of civilian condos. Then when Israel gives them notice of a military strike they send more civilians in to die for the cause so they can complain about civilian causalities. They are deceptive and insane.

      Mossad was involved with Operation Watch Tower and Iran Contra but the fact that Gaza bombard Israel with rockets on an ongoing basis is very real. That's why they have the Iron Dome.

      In this case it is well within the realm of believability that a group of Hamas could cross the wall and invade civilian cities by surprise simply because it hasn't been done before. Normally they just randomly fire rockets into the air. Israel is surrounded by hostile borders. This case is an example of why civilians need guns.

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    2. You are just parroting Israel and the mainstream media's claims. You have no idea whether Hamas is covertly working to advance Israel's objectives or not. But realize this: every time stuff like this happens, Israel benefits greatly. They always end up taking more land too. So perhaps Hamas is just incredibly stupid, and continues to cause Palestinians to lose more and more land, rights, and civilians, OR, maybe the mainstream media, and the Israeli government, aren't telling you the truth.

      Again, watch how much this situation will benefit Israel, and hurt Palestine. Watch how much it will advance Israel's objectives.

      It makes you sound very naive when you just parrot mainstream news sources as if they are fact.

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    3. I'm not parroting anything but you may have a point. A couple of guys with guns parasailing into a music concert is suspicious. Everyone knows if you attack Israel they will respond 100 fold. Any attack would have to have a motive. A prisoner exchange would be a motive. So would a land grab.

      The way the spook jumped all over this is also suspicious. "Yeah the pic is on the news, Hamas guys with brand new M4's with ACOG's and Aimpoints, all US produced." Knowing that then trying to blame Iran or Afghanistan is also suspicious.

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  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armageddon

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    1. Yes but not yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzI6JG-49Og

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  3. Every single person who said they didn't want Trump to be president, every single one, said they wanted the slaughter of innocents in Israel (and Ukraine for that matter) instead. Because presidential elections are a zero-sum choice. And they chose these horrors to the horrors they imagine the world under Trump would've been.

    You get the bad with whatever good you prefer. It's without question that Hamas and Iran never would've attacked Israel if Trump was in office. As Putin never would've attacked Ukraine. Zero-sum. Biden or Trump. One or the other. These horrors were both predictable and predicted under D's who hate the Jewish state of Israel, and have a soft spot for Nazi's. Real Nazi's, not just the slur hurled at all R's since before I was born.

    This blood is on their hands. Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran are just the hired contract killers. The Deep State of D's and Rino's, propaganda media, multinational corporatists are the ones who put out the contract. The killers are snakes. Israel is the mouse. Doing what snakes do. Kill the mouse. Deep State put the mouse in the snake terrarium now acting all surprised the snakes killed the mouse. Crocodile tears.

    Intended for a community near you. The same snakes being imported and dropped into communities all around us. Just waiting for the signal. Just like happened in Israel on October 7. Be on alert. Deep State hired them to kill us here in the US. As Kari Lake said yesterday, refugees bring their families with them, fighters going to war leave their families behind. The invasion is of mostly military age unaccompanied men. An army. Hidden inside the Trojan Horse that is "immigration" invasion.

    Brought to us by every single person who said they didn't want Trump as president. Like the Israeli's at the Peace Festival, most have a big, ugly surprise coming. While the Deep State eagerly awaits the results of their handiwork. Unless we wake the F up. Ourselves and our family, friends. Sad, ugly truth.

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    1. I support lawful immigration with proper criminal record checks.

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    2. The US assassinated the Iranian General responsible for defeating ISIS which they created. That was under Trump. Iran was not behind this.

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    3. US and Israel were both involved in planning Soleimani's death, Israel bailed last minute so Trump had to go solo.
      Israel got exactly what they wanted with the plausible deniability.
      Win, win scenario.

      I think one should pay some creedence to past, present and future statements from Iran on the state of Israel as well as their words on this specific attack.

      As much as I believe Palestine historically got the shaft and continues to get it, there is no denying that their actions are beyond barbaric.

      Sadly, many innocents blood will be shed, but when you vote for a Hamas government knowing that it is attached with this fanatical militant faction and this militant faction proceeds to do something like this, you lose almost all sympathy.

      To make matters worse Palestinian expats around the world march in the street celebrating the attack, that is fkn demented.

      You reap what you sew and by supporting this barbaric attack you will now suffer the consequences.
      So be it.

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  4. And of course Palestinians in Canada and elsewhere are celebrating. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that the Iranians helped plan the attack and green lighted it. Big surprise.

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    1. I think the Wall Street Journal trying to drag Iran into this might be a bit of fake news. Anything to demonize Iran because of their oil and centralized banks. Demonizing Iran supports the manufactured energy crisis which is exactly what the WEF wants.

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  5. The WEF wants war everywhere. That and starvation, which tends to go with war, is how we get from over 7 billion down to the Globalists 3.5 billion target. Hamas and Hezbollah, who are now making moves in northern Israel along the Lebanese border, both are funded by and are Iranian proxies, always have been. Iran can't start a war with Israel directly, they'd be nuked. This way they can say, "wasn't us" even though everyone knows it was.

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    1. I'm not so sure. That's MI 6's narrative and they said Iraq had WMD when they didn't. MI 6 lied. Demonizing Iran supports the WEF's manufactured energy crisis.

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    2. In fact, since the CIA created ISIS to get the US involved in the Syrian pipeline dispute, I think it's far more likely these militants were armed indirectly by the CIA through Qatar. They've been gobbling up West Bank. Now they want Gaza. The CIA arms militants to rationalize their preplanned reaction. It's the same old problem, reaction, solution paradigm. This one won't even last 6 days.

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    3. Here is an interesting article for you. In it, Gen. Yitzhak Segev, a former Israeli military governor in Gaza admits Israel funded the creation of Hamas. It's actually much more nefarious than that, but even mainstream articles have hinted at what I'm saying.

      https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

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    4. That's kind of like saying MI 6 created the IRA. However, it's well within reason to suggest the CIA and or Mossad could arm and encourage Hamas just like they did ISIS to provoke a response. That is far more likely than blaming Iran. I'm just saying the fact that Gaza is crazy is also a factor.

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  6. I also recognize that Israel does indeed have spies. I remember the story of the eucalyptus trees in the Golan Heights. This attack is indeed suspicious. It looks like another land grab.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-the-footsteps-of-a-spy-exploring-the-golans-eli-cohen-trail/

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    1. Do you even know about the "dancing israelis"? Just search the term in duckduckgo or brave browsers, and see for yourself, if you're not aware (Google results are heavily censored). Israel was heavily involved in 9/11.

      https://wearechange.org/the-dancing-israelis-fbi-docs-shed-light-on-apparent-mossad-foreknowledge-of-9-11-attacks/

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    2. Yes I have heard about the Dancing Israelis during 9/11. They may have assisted the CIA but they were not responsible. They were responsible for the attack on the USS Liberty but they were acting on orders from President Johnson. The CIA is corrupt. That doesn't mean all Americans are. Likewise, just because Mossad assists the CIA with corruption doesn't mean all Jews are corrupt. Jews have a right to a homeland just like the Palestinians do.

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  7. This incident will be the catalyst for major war in the area.
    Lebanon, Iran and Syria will eventually be involved.

    When this occurs look for China to kick off its quest for Taiwan.

    WW3 is slowly taking shape.

    Some real big arms companies out there just licking their chops.
    Not to mention all the power hungry organizations in the world like WEF, UN, WHO that can't wait to consolidate more control over the world and its people.

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    1. Nope. We made it through Y2K and we made it through the Mayan calendar, we're going to make it through this without a scratch.

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    2. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/its-not-battlefield-its-massacre-israeli-army-takes-foreign-press-scenes-kibbutz

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  8. Those were purely fictional events.
    Mass hysteria.
    This is not hysteria.
    A storm has been brewing for many years.
    Much of the world has nothing and nothing left to lose.
    There are some absolutely brutal well funded terrorist organizations that are doing all they can to make war a reality.
    Partner that with the money to be made off of war and new consolidations of power to be achieved and it's all too real a possibility.



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    1. The only well funded terrorist organizations are the ones funded by the CIA.

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  9. Remember you said that.

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  10. By the way, the spook can go f*ck himself. He's trying to poison this thread with misinformation.

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  11. Very interesting thread, thx Dennis

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  12. Interesting video for a little more context on the recent history of these contentious lands.

    https://youtu.be/cfkUE5Q0K04?si=jAmr-AbH5uxQo6-c

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