Penguin Random House sent me another book on organized crime to review. This one is called Red Hook Brooklyn Mafia, Ground Zero by Frank Dimatteo and Michael Benson.
Gangland wire did a podcast about it with the authors. It's about the rivalry between the Irish and Italian Mafia in Brooklyn. Apparently the Irish originally controlled the docks before the Italians took over. Around 1925 to 1927. Hells Kitchen over in Manhattan was also an Irish stronghold in New York.
The Mafia isn't my specialty as that usually implies the Italian mob and I'm from Vancouver. The Italian mob isn't here it's in Montreal and Ontario. That's not an invitation by the way. Commercial Drive is awesome. We don't need drama.
I normally cover gangs and drugs. Which the mob control over there but not here. Over there the mafia is also involved with illegal gambling and extortion.
Nobody cares about illegal gambling or contraband cigarettes. That doesn't destroy societies like crystal meth or fentanyl does. There's no such thing as illegal gambling just unlicensed. Under normal circumstances, the house wins. The odds are in their favor. Then there's rigged ones we saw when I was a kid.
Anyone who takes up gambling debts with the mob or the Hells Angels is very unwise. That takes risk taking to a whole new level. It's stupid. Don't do it. We don't have extortion in Vancouver. That's the government's job with their inflated taxes. Maybe Chinatown but I don't see that.
In Montreal it's common. The call it pisa. For us in Vancouver pizza is what we have with pepperoni and cheese. Evidently it's still a problem in Montreal. The mob says pay us protection money or your business might have an accident. It may get firebombed. Nobody respects that. Extortionists are simply parasites living off the work of others.
When I was in Belfast 1988/89 I came across a video of a journalist reporting on businesses being extorted by the IRA and the UDA. I sent it to a friend from High School who was originally from Belfast but when I got back they didn't want anything to do with that and threw it out. It was a really good documentary and I can't find it posted anywhere.
In Montreal, Vito Rizzuto negotiated a truce between the Irish mob, the Italian Mafia and the Hells Angels. Everybody made money for a time until the Rizzutos were betrayed by the Calabrians out of Hamilton and the Ontario village idiots.
Julian Sher put out a documentary about the Irish West End Gang in Montreal called King of Coke which was streamed on Crave. Julian Sher is credible. He also wrote Road to Hell.
I don't know anything about the West End Gang other than the fact that Larry Amero's coaccused Shane Baloney wasn't affiliated with them. Shane claimed his mother who was a waitress had an affair with a leader of the West End Gang.
Shane Maloney was from Burnaby not Montreal. People here who knew him talked about how he would rip people off. They called him wheels because he rolled around on a wheelchair after an accident. He mysteriously disappeared while on parole like Robby who escaped prison. Nothing shady about that. Much. Some of the fake news called him the leader of the West End Gang. That is ridiculous. He's simply an illegitimate son from Burnaby who would rip people off.
So Red Hook takes place in Brooklyn during the 1920's. The movie Gangs of New York with Leonardo DiCaprio and Cameron Diaz took place way back in 1863. It was a very wild time period so it was. So this is history.
Before I went to New York in the /80's, I watched the movie Warriors a million times. That's what I was expecting to see when I got there but by 1985, all those gangs in New York were gone. The NYPD lead a successful harassment campaign targeting anyone who wore colours in public.
That's why the Crips and Bloods in LA didn't wear patches, they just wore a red or blue banana in their back pocket. They just wore coloured clothing instead of gang logos. In LA the gangs exploded while they died down in New York.
When I was young I read the book Run Baby Run by Nicky Cruz. It was a sequel to the Cross and the Switchblade. That fed my fascination with the gangs of New York which lead me to join the Guardian Angels and eventually train and patrol with them.
Does the lower mainland or bc have any type of mafia ? How come it's more in Ontario and Quebec?
ReplyDeleteThat's a good question. Not that I know of. People talk about the Triads but the Hells Angels have worked with the Triads since before the Loft Six shooting. There was a documentary that talked about a rivalry between the Russian mob and the Hells Angels in Vancouver but I don't think the Russian mob has ever been very large here and relatively speaking the Hells Angels haven't been here that long. Why is the Italian Mafia so big in Montreal and Ontario but not in Vancouver? I simply don't know.
DeleteI think the Russian thing was over a long time ago, 20 years maybe? I grabbed a guy for shoplifting batteries in 2002 or so that turned out to be Russian, no ID except a Royal Bank Card. Older guy, early 50's but they all look older from smoking and drinking. Military background, he stated he'd been guarding Russian missiles on the Chinese frontier when he was a lot younger. My impression has always been that they tried to expand here but it didn't work out for them. It's too far from home, if that makes sense, the vast majority of Russian mob in North America in in NY.
DeleteYes it was a long time ago and was hard to believe. A lot of that is BS.
DeleteWell Holly rat phuck look what got leaked to the internet….
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Wasn't me. I have it and read it but didn't find anything relevant. He trashed the Hells Angels associate that ratted him out but he didn't say anything about the club. In another interview he named the club but I can't seem to find it.
DeleteI think the link will stay. The main thing is people didn't want him to profit from his crimes. If they post it for free and he's dead, no one profits from it.
DeleteWhy are you such a retard? https://gangsterismout.wordpress.com/2025/02/01/operation-valley-cloak-2/
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Interesting, I too read "The Cross and the Switchblade" when I was younger.
ReplyDeleteIt's a bit born again but it talks about what it was like back then.
Delete2 Russian brothers in 1990 who try to muscle in the drug trade hells angels wipe them out real quick .
ReplyDeleteYou're talking about the Filonov brothers, Sergei and Taras they were associated with the Thives in Law Russian group, they ripped off the HA and killed a money maker for them and bragged about it. They killed Sergei in front of Taras but Taras lived somehow, Taras was later killed at UBC while handcuffed with a shot gun blast to the face. The Russians do financial crimes here. They like Florida and that type of weather so you wont see many here. Those brothers were loose canons now everyone gets along until you get closer to street level.
DeleteTwo criminals who happen to be Russian don't constitute the Russian Mafia. The Russian Mafia has no presence in Vancouver. Just like if someone is Irish that doesn't make them a member or leader of the West End Gang. Especially when they were from Burnaby where there is no West End gang.
Delete80s u had a few asian gangs also u had hells angels then those Russian brothers came around 1990 also u started hearing about the East Indians in the early 90s .
ReplyDeleteHey Dennis, thanks for the info on the new book you were sent I notice you mentioned gangland wire podcast you have any others you care to share to anyone who likes a good crime informative podcasts
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure off hand. I know there are tons out there. One that I know of post false information from the Intelligence Community.
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