Saturday, May 15, 2010

Hells Angel murder witness badly tortured



Dustin LaFortune moved to Calgary a few years ago from Winnipeg. He had gone missing and was seriously tortured and found dumped at a hospital. In 2004 he had testified in a Hells Angel murder trail.

In that trial, Danny Tokarchuk was accused of murdering Hells Angels associate and Zig Zag crew member Trevor Savoie. Tokarchuk claimed it was in self defense. He claimed that he had been selling drugs for Savoie, started using the product and fell into debt. He claims he owed him $15,000 and was afraid for his life.

Tokarchuk claims Savoie was following him in his car, called him on his cell phone and demanded he pull over. Tokarchuk then claimed Savoie pulled a pipe and he was afraid for his life thinking he might have a gun and shot him.

However, police claimed the cell phone records said it was Tokarchuk who called Savoie. Savoie was 5’ 6” tall and weighed 125 lbs. Witnesses who called police after he was shot thought it was a 12 year old boy because of his size. Another witness claims she saw two Hells Angels standing over the body laughing one with his foot on Savoie’s head.

Dustin LaFortune’s testimony in that trial was not significant. All it established was Tokarchuk was paranoid and did not make sense when he visited them after the shooting.

The only thing that trial does establish is that Dustin LaFortune and his brother were friends with someone who sold drugs for the Hells Angels and belonged to the zig zag crew.

The question is, what did Dustin LaFortune do when he moved to Calgary? Did his associations with the Hells Angels continue? Were the Hells Angels upset about his testimony in court? Who was his room mate and What associations did his room mate have?

The torture case is very disturbing. We need to find out who is responsible.

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  1. Some names and some FACTS you stupid people might want to think about:

    Carl Gustav Nyberg is NOT a dog
    Melodie Caner
    Murphy is a dog
    Leduc and Red Deer? ROTFLMAO!

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  5. Yeah I’m not sure what’s going on with the blog but we did wonder if it would melt down after 10,0000 comments. The Laf’s will always find someone to con. Yet it certainly is within their right to fund raise for their tragedy. It’s their mean spirited rage and lies that I choose not to involve myself it. I’m off camping. Will be back Thursday. Cheers.

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  7. maw
    the article also says
    Drug Treatment Helps Emotional Age Mature Again. which contradicts what you said originally.

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  10. TEST?

    Is this the new "Dustin Lafortune Thread - Part 2?"

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  11. you said before that she was pregnant i hope that that can bring a new light on it for her. one day she will hit bottom and want to quit. i have faith that one day you will get her back and all the damage that has been done can be repaired.

    as for renee having say over dustin i think it is a different story because her son has a brain injury. i know the family has lied but i dont judge them because i dont know how i would react in the situation. many half truths leave everyone angry but we dont know what they are and aren't allowed to say. i know already that most people here disagree with this, everyone has there own opinion.
    my truth is that my heart goes out to her whatever her past is does not matter, the wrong things you do in life do not mean you do not love your son. she is going through hell right now i imagine, how could she not be.

    im sure looking back now knowing what she knows she would of handled this situation differently.

    i hope and pray for a full recovery for dustin and his family and everyone effected by this. for selfish reasons i also hope we find out the truth of what happened. whatever the truth is dustin and his family did not deserve this.

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  12. p dot s.... i am not liv or troll or who ever else and i do believe drugs and or drugs were involved.

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  14. Ah! I wonder how many folks will find there way here?

    ~~~~~
    Two Notes:

    A) The Lafortune family facebook page is once again open for comments (as of yesterday).

    B) Lynn Ness seems to be a bit overwhelmed at the sheer work it would involve, to take over Dustin's day-to-day care. That's not surprising. Being a caregiver for a sick or disabled person IS very hard work!

    Lynn's letter to the family:

    "I just got home from Regina. The trip was great, we had a really good time doing a bunch of “firsts” since this all happened. It took about two days before he fell into pieces. Same goes for me. We took turns. Renee said it perfectly: this trip was my reality check. It’s not all dreams of fishing and sitting around with friends having a good time anymore. We have hit a wall, the recovery is slower now, the hard stuff is surfacing and I didn’t realize how hard this was actually going to be. I did, but, until you’re in it, you just… don’t know.
    This was the hardest trip yet. It is not going to be easy for any of us. This visit was a HUGE wake up call for me. He made leaps and bounds so damn fast in the beginning that now that it’s starting to slow down, it’s tough. Not to mention mentally draining and exhausting with feelings of horror, helplessness, sadness, anger…
    When I think of someone taking care of him 24/7 it’s too big to fathom. I was only there for 4 nights/5 days and can honestly say that NO ONE should have to go at this alone. This will have to be a group effort, everyone pitching in, driving him back and forth to places. I DON’T THINK IT’S HEALTHY FOR A LONE SOLDIER TO DO IT ALL. Dustin is repetitious, sad, happy, needing everything. When he does do things on his own, you have to watch and be there to make sure he doesn’t fall; this is not a “one home/person” job and it’s definitely tougher than I ever expected it to be.
    In all honesty, I am exhausted to the MAX. I’ve cried, I’ve smiled, I’ve gotten frustrated, I’ve eaten, I’ve not eaten. It’s hard to explain, but I just don’t think one person can do this. He is going to need a team of caring people around him."

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  16. Apparently, he now weighs 164 lbs. It looks like a good weight for him. That's almost 80 lbs. he's gained in 3 and a half months!

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  18. Not to mention the 87 lbs he weighed, when admitted to the hospital in Regina!

    If he reaches 174 lbs. he will have DOUBLED his own body weight in only 4 months or so!

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  19. maw
    yes i include lindsey as family, and i agree with everything in your last post. i hope they will all come together through this. lol i also have a mother in-law i know its not always easy but they are her family now its time they all start acting like it.

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  20. 2 dot
    regina nurses are amazing, good for dustin on all his improvements. he looks really good i couldnt believe the pics of his muscles.

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  22. Nice to see a new spot for comments.

    I too noticed that the wall posts are back at the LF site. I guess if one can sift through the instant barrage of Youtube links (why,why??),there are some nice posts there. He seems to be making an excellent recovery though and that's really nice to see. :)

    Shoutout to NB~if you're going to ask LA questions,why are you using your fake profile instead of the one you usually post on there with? Curious indeed...

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  26. I have a question for Maw; and to preface that question, let me qualify and say that I have followed and read EVERY single 13,000+ posts from DAY ONE here. I am very familiar with all that has been posted and discussed here on GO. I just finally feel the "need" to comment on something that is genuinely bugging me.

    "Maw said...
    2dotconnectors said...
    TEST?
    Is this the new "Dustin Lafortune Thread - Part 2?"
    my words - it sure is:)"

    Maw, no disrespect intended here - you do indeed bring valuable contributions to the table (as do many others) BUT who elected you in charge of this blog ???

    In many of your posts, you come across like you are the leader here and dictating what is discussed, what is not, steering the discussion to what YOU deem appropriate discussion, etc, and sometimes your posts even come across as condescending to other posters, IMO.

    Maw said:
    "my words - well said:)!
    now on that note - I too want to go back to talking about the gangs...."

    I am not here to start an argument (sorry not my style so if you attack me, I will not likely engage) but I, for one, am put off by your efforts to control and/or run this blog. This is a place for open discussion of issues about the DL case that everyone would like to discuss not just the ones YOU want to discuss.

    So tell me Maw, did Agent K give you "cart blanche" to run this blog or did you arbitrarily 'self-appoint' yourself ??? Did you ever wonder why many of the older posters have left ???

    Just curious, of course....

    ~Hugs~ (lol)

    K - perhaps you can address my query as well ? Thanks
    P

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  27. Sorry Maw but you've been a bit over bearing.....

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  29. were back...hello...going to read.

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  30. @Maw I appreciate your imput and it seems you preffer to take the gangs scenario and want to explore it. It seems that people are a little upset because other posters looked for many possible reasons as to why this happened to dl, but you've settled on that one in perticular that just makes people think you have an agenda of your own.

    Some random observations:

    I find it interesting that Renee herself said that Paxton was into selling/making drugs but they so whole heartedly denied DL had drug ties.

    Its funny that the family's fb page is open for comments now that the other Go post is now Kaput. Nice timing guys. Not that i think they had anything to do with that, seems they just thought nobody would be asking questions anymore???

    There are a few(maybe the same one) people on LA's page that seem to really have it out for her and keep planting seeds of doubt. It's very subtle, meant to come off as simple questions but they obviously have it out for her.

    i hope the police say something soon and not leave us hanging without a resolution.

    sorry if my post is long and doesn't make sense, i'm typing with one hand while trying to nurse my little one :)

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  31. oh and sorry if that was tmi :) :)

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  32. agreed ac...coincidence? about GO going down and Dustin's site back up (per se)...hhhmmmmm

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  33. @Maw - no apology necessary.

    I was not questioning (or judging) "why" you are here. My point was speaking to "how" you conduct yourself on here; and that is, IMO, you post as if you OWN this blog and are the "go to" person who is in charge and who decides what is prudent to discuss and what isn't, etc, etc. It comes across as a little pushy and "over bearing" to quote Ringo.

    You act like you are the boss of everyone here; and no, I was not referring to your comment about this being the new DL thread - that was just an "example" of how you act like it is your blog and you own the joint...lol

    I am not sure if you "get" what I am saying; but, for example, when K says things like "tone down the language", it is totally appropriate as this is HIS forum; when you do similar posts, well frankly it is a turn off and annoying cause you are NOT the boss here.

    Sorry Maw - again, honestly no disrespect intended to you and you do contribute significantly here - but that is how I feel and I am quite certain that is why some folks have left this blog altogether. Bottom line, can't we all just express and share our thoughts/ opinions without being bossed around or treated like kids ??? JMO

    Enough said. Sorry for the rant all. Do carry on everyone, Maw included...~)

    ~Hugs~

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  34. yup. I think they thought they were done with GO and possibly donations stopped or dwindeled(sp)and that's what prompted the comments opening up. I stumbled over there and oh boy is heather having a field day posting crap all over the page!

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  35. ps - having said that - you are certainly entitled to your opinions about the gang theory and I respect that and everyone's opinion here. That was not my beef or issue. I am still forming my own opinion about what happened but I respect others'.
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  36. ac said:

    "Its funny that the family's fb page is open for comments now that the other Go post is now Kaput. Nice timing guys. Not that i think they had anything to do with that, seems they just thought nobody would be asking questions anymore???"

    That was my very thoughts as well. Co-incidence ?

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  38. @Maw, Thank you!
    TMI - Too much information.

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  40. I am pretty sure K is a big boy and can "police" his own blog. After all, he does take on the HAs...~) lol

    That is all I am going to say about this.

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  42. anne murray, meatloaf, cliff richard...I'll take REO speedwagon for 1000 alex.

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  43. @Picasso~ Thank you. I have tried to express the same thing. I believe that Maw,like everyone else is entitled to her opinion. But I certainly didn't like how she attempted to shut me and others down.

    Maw,I'm sure you have a sincere heart and all but I too have become put off by your selective policing of this blog. I wrote to you before the previous blog was cut off and I don't intend to come off like I'm picking on you but please,enough already.

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  44. Sparkle,REO Speedwagon has become like a bad dream,lmao. As soon as I think I've scrubbed the mere mention of them from my mind,it returns with a vengeance.

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  45. the latest...C claimed to have secured visits for LAs daughter...and now there are no visits...any ideas?

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  46. okay..I think C went out on a limb to honestly help with the visits, and then learned something critical about this case and shut it down...apparently there are no phone conversations either. from his (Cs) passion about this, I don't think he just said...ah, its too much to deal with. hhmmm

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  47. ac said...
    yup. I think they thought they were done with GO and possibly donations stopped or dwindeled(sp)and that's what prompted the comments opening up. I stumbled over there and oh boy is heather having a field day posting crap all over the page!


    Lexxus90 says: I know!! Heather is something else, she makes me giggle...sue blue eyes too lol. The cougars are running amuck over there. It's funny to watch.

    P.S
    So glad there's a new blog!! I was beginning to wonder if it had shut down for good. I really wish that LDG, Chilli and the rest would come back. Whatever happened to Drunktard? He made me laugh.

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  48. Lindsay Airhart yes they talked every few days and we had family in calgary that we visited regulaarly so he saw her at least 3 times in a year. but the problem is now that b4 he dissapeard he was supost to come home and move the buisness and he promised her he would be home soon so she is having a hard time understanding why he isnt here when he promised that it would be soon. and if you have kids promises are not to be broken if possible he however hasnt broken the promise and i keep reminding her that the promise is just taking a bit longer
    6 hours ago · 3 people ·

    so LA is saying that DL was supposed to be coming home. has that been mentioned before? I thought DL told LA he was not leaving and DP was his family now?

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  50. Maw said...
    i think I will go back to just being a reader, if anyone can find more info about a drug/gang connection, it would be appreciated. Just make sure you put GANG TALK so I can pick it out of the gossip.

    See yah guys
    have fun
    hugs
    Maw


    Lexxus90 says: MAW!! NOT YOU TOO!! I don't care what other people says, who frickin cares, 2 out of how many people here share the same oppinion about you!! they'll get over it...if not then they can go elsewhere. I for one appreciate your input and I enjoy reading your posts and i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one who feels this way. Please reconsider and stay!! Your input is valued here.

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  51. Maw,I would hate to see you go,which wasn't was I was suggesting btw. Please don't let me or anyone else silence you. I enjoy reading your input as well,even if I don't agree with some of it.

    Again I say that I miss some of the original posters here too,not to negate those who came afterwards. Everyone has a right to their opinion,no matter what it is.

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  52. maw, don't take any of this personal. everyone has opinions and 'feelings' on this, and many comments are opinions and feelings.

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  53. Maw said...
    Xtine - is the Family back on the Family site?

    Sorry,I missed your question. I haven't seen any family members posting yet. Mostly just the groupies that were vying for the spotlight previously. And Youtube videos by Sharpie,lots of them...

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  54. Nobody, including myself, was saying Maw did not contribute here or her opinions were not worthy of consideration or respected - in fact I clearly stated to the contrary when making MY point; so sorry but I, for one, am not going to sit here now and beg for her return if she chooses to leave on her own accord; especially when she herself has bullied folks on here in the past (in that all so nice "naive" new blogger kind of way). I was very respectful and thoughtful in my posts on this topic and am not going to be guilted into retracting.

    In any event, Maw can speak for herself on this; but I have to wonder if it was not the criticism of her that prompted her last (reader only) post; but rather her dislike for Sparkle's speculating about LA that came just prior.

    Maw said:
    "Just make sure you put GANG TALK so I can pick it out of the gossip."

    Perhaps the "gossip" she refers to were some not so flattering speculation about LA by Sparkle. Maw has made it clear that is she as supporter of LA, even going so far as to thank her for saving DL's life. So Maw, I invite you to speak for yourself but perhaps this is what prompted your comment about "gossip" or possibly all of the above ? Of course, I could be wrong.

    And just to be clear, I am not a supporter of either LA OR the LF family - both of which have caused me to raise an eyebrow or two and both of which have some explaining to do in my mind; but Sparkle did raise an interesting point about some discrepencies in LA's story.

    So I am sorry to sound harsh but I was really just asking that everyone's opinions be valued and counted in. If someone doesn't like what is being said, albeit respectfully, or only wants their voice heard or to control everything, then of course, they are free to take their marbles and go play elsewhere. But as Sparkle said, one shouldn't take these things personally as it is not personal whatsoever. Heck, we don't even know who the heck we all here do we, so how can it be personal ? It's not at all.

    I have remained for a long time here - now that I speak up; I guess I should 'take cover' now for having the courage to speak candidly...

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  55. Correction - meant - I have remained "quiet" here for a long time...thx

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  56. with the limited 'facts' we have, I too have not figured this out. I don't regard my post as gossip...the comments posted where initially made by LA on LAs site. was DL trying to come home?

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  57. @sparkle - yes that was a legitimate observation you made - taken from LA's own words; and contradicts what she said previously when she had asked him to come home back in November.

    @Xtine - indeed Sharpie is back in full swing -didn't miss a beat...lol

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  58. According to users, Native Syndicate are primarily identified by the colour black, with Northern Manitoba members wearing the colours of the Raiders. Native Syndicate in Winnipeg are represented by the white flag.

    http://www.insideprison.com/prison_gang_profile_NS.asp

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  59. MW...They have been identified by blue bandannas with a blue vest and patch on the back.

    http://www.insideprison.com/prison_gang_profile_MW.asp

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  60. August 20, 1994, Manitoba Warriors members brutally murder fellow gang member Bernard Cook after the victim tried to dissociate himself with the gang. (Evidence page 249, by Ronalda Murphy)

    On April 1996, members of the Indian Posse and Manitoba Warriors and the Indian Posse riot at the Headingley Correctional Centre. Jail house informants are stabbed and mutilated. (The Globe and Mail 22 August 1997)

    In 2007, police raid the Paa Pii Wak halfway house in Winnipeg, Canada after finding that staff of the aboriginal treatment and healing centre was involved in drug crimes with the Manitoba Warriors prison gang. (Winnipeg Free Press)

    http://www.prisonoffenders.com/manitoba_warriors.html

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  62. Picaso said: Co-incidence ?

    co (meaning "with")
    incidence ("the result of an event"; "a measure of the risk of developing some new condition within a specified period of time")

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  63. Picaso: I think Maw was just answering the question about is this the new spot for comments that’s why she specified her words. I did post a link to the new spot on the original post so I think by word of mouth it will get out. Just like the secret chat rooms I never found. Sometimes things get passed around by word of mouth.

    Like minded people come here and if anyone else tries to elevate the language then more power to them. Those trolls were down right irritating. I can’t follow the blog all the time. I don’t wanna be mean but I kinda get bored of it since there is no new information coming out just a vicious circle of speculation. And of course all the fb drama and I know I don’t have the time of day for that.

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  64. from the DL Trust Fund site...

    Nazirene Bial What's happened to the GO Blog? Anyone know? There are thousands of posts missing.
    Wednesday at 11:51am · View Feedback (2)Hide Feedback (2) · Flag

    Heather Sharpe That is good
    Yesterday at 12:49am

    Heather Sharpe That blog slandered Dustins family, and hurt him and I hope it is ending
    19 hours ago

    we hurt Dustin?..what?! like Dustin is reading this!

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  65. Butt said...
    AgentK said:
    "Having said that, I’ve been receiving more tips that friends or business associates of Sean Wolfe were involved. A tip came in confirming that the hospital injuries were not self inflicted and were the result of being tortured. The memory loss was explained by the claim they gave him mind altering drugs to forget what happened. GHB or any other date rape drug would do that. That would explain why he can’t remember but is still able to function. The claim was that it wasn’t related to the murder trial but that money was owed. Time will tell. Hopefully."

    That has the ring of truth to it, and it has aspects of some of the things we have explored.
    It also fits into what Ryan and clan have said...that dL was "drugged and tortured"
    So..if that stuff is true, one need only wonder WHAT the money was owed for. Drugs, loan sharking.....

    If Dustin was being drugged (date rape drug) BEFORE he was tortured, it would explain why he also didn't "run" from the situation. Maybe he didn't realize there was a situation. Clearly he knew something was happening, but he couldn't quite put his finger on it...and after the original diffuse brain injury, his memory was fucked a little, he may not have had the capacity to figure out that something wasn't right.
    This also explains why Paxton was paranoid about eating food people cooked for him. (Is it Lindsay that said that in her group?)
    If Paxton was putting drugs in DL's food/drink, or knew that someone else was, then naturally he'd be suspicious of other people. People who are guilty are usually the 1st to suspect.
    Bah...no time to edit right now..so I hope this makes sense.

    On a side note...And I usually just ignore this crap but I'm saying fuck-it and commenting this time. Stop all your belly-aching and carrying on and back and forth banter. You're starting to sound like the support group's old discussion board.

    June 29, 2010 11:37 AM

    Agent K...if you believe this to be true, it sounds like a group/gang of people were involved. how much do you respect your source?

    also, if you are given GHB, don't you know when you come around that something happened? wouldn't someone feel the drug taking affect? and can you still be 'lead' to do things? (ie are you still able to function and perform tasks?

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  66. Agent K - regarding the technical issue with the other thread, are you able to identify through Blogger what is the problem and more importantly, are all those 3,000+ posts gone forever ?

    There was a lot of good information there, including Maw's research on gangs, medical information from Butt and others about DL's condition and other observations. It would be a shame if all those posts were lost forever into the "black hole". Can Blogger retrieve them somehow ? Perhaps move them over here if need be ?

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  67. Picasso, by the way, I heard what you were saying about Maw. You expressed it well, even though your words were then purposely misunderstood. Let's let everyone have a say.

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  68. @Ringo - yes, the operative word here being "purposely". I am no dummy or no pushover and I too can see what's going on.

    I am not a mean person by nature; but I was just fed up with it all; and would be willing to bet that what I said was what other folks were thinking themselves but perhaps reluctant to say.

    One can only hope that it results in a more open, tolerant and non-judgmental discussion for ALL to participate freely in.

    And..."That's all I have to say about that." [compliments of Forrest Gump]...lol

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  69. Picasso said...
    @Ringo - yes, the operative word here being "purposely". I am no dummy or no pushover and I too can see what's going on.

    I am not a mean person by nature; but I was just fed up with it all; and would be willing to bet that what I said was what other folks were thinking themselves but perhaps reluctant to say.

    One can only hope that it results in a more open, tolerant and non-judgmental discussion for ALL to participate freely in.

    *Yes! I'm not always great with words and thank you for speaking out. I wasn't begging Maw to stay by any means and she often dodges answering my questions but that's okay. Just reminded her as well that everyone has a right to their own views,including her.

    I'm certainly not Miss Popular here either but hey, that's never stopped me. :)

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  70. Sparkle said… “Agent K...if you believe this to be true, it sounds like a group/gang of people were involved. how much do you respect your source?”

    I don’t really have a source other than the obvious. What is the motive if DP acted alone? How did he get that kind of control over DL if he acted alone? Who was the big tattooed man that showed up at the hospital getting more information?

    Some people have said they have heard Tiny Mac has info and that he was spotted in Calgary as well as the guy in the photo with Sean Wolfe. I have no idea who all these people are so it’s not reliable objectively but it does make things curious.

    To my knowledge if someone is given GHB they can’t remember what happened.

    Picasso: I’m not sure what’s going on with the other thread. Right now I can’t even delete the troll posts there. It seems to be locked. It is ironic because the last several pages of comments were very informative with less bickering.

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  71. OK here’s the deal: It appears that the comments on the DL blog entry have crashed after 10,000 comments. I’m deleting the troll spam but that is a long and painful process. As I delete the spam, more recent messages that disappeared are starting to reappear.

    I have been getting a lot of requests to fix the blog so I’ve created a new forum to discuss the case at: http://gangstersout.forumer.com

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  72. great! thanks Agent K. I can't see how to post on the new forum...duh...

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  73. You have to register a username then post. You can then send Private Messages back and forth and enjoy a new interactive world that includes blocking trolls.

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  74. got the user name...but where do you post...sorry, must be the sun : )

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  75. Click on the DL forum then click on New Topic.

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  76. Just joined the board,thanks! :)

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  77. Agent K, thank you.

    I'm glad you're deleting the troll spam. It was a waste of space. Perhaps you could also delete some of the petty bickering? It was irrelevant to the Dustin Lafortune case and an eyesore to those of us who have no interest in these personal feuds. Hopefully with this new system, these individuals can take their squabbles to PM.

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  78. K: I joined and tried posting 3x and my posts aren't showing. I'm familiar with UBB boards so I don't understand why my posts don't show up for me.

    Xtine: why does it matter to you how I post to Lindsay? Lindsay knows who I am. Do you want me to delete the post and repost it? The question will be the same.

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  80. WiteWitz said...
    Xtine: why does it matter to you how I post to Lindsay? Lindsay knows who I am. Do you want me to delete the post and repost it? The question will be the same.

    *No need WiteWitz,none at all.

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  81. WiteWitz,may I pm something to you on the message board?

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  82. I have deleted my post from the board to spare others the drama. But it'll still be visible to subscribers so she can read it there.;)

    My apologies for biting the bait all.

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  83. Pringle: Yeah it’s just gonna take time for me to get around to deleting all the spam and bickering on the old blog post. It’s very time consuming but I will get it done. That way some of the more relevant comments that were made recently will reappear.

    WiteWitz: Sorry about that. It defaults to moderated and I thought I took it off moderation. I think It’s off moderated now.

    Xtine: ip numbers change every time you reboot your modem. The only thing I’ll be able to tell is if one person has eight usernames and pretends to be different people, they’ll have the same ip number at that time unless they use another computer.

    People have a right to be anonymous. I just hate it when people flame with several different usernames and it gets so vulgar and toxic. You can send people PM’s on the new forum and they can block people from sending them PMs.

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  85. I've been PM'ing with Agent K. I don't know why but you have to manually put in the person's username in order to send a PM. It 'should' automatically be put into the "to" box when you click on that person but it doesn't do it for some reason. Maybe we can work out some of these "bugs" tonight.

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    Xtine: ip numbers change every time you reboot your modem. The only thing I’ll be able to tell is if one person has eight usernames and pretends to be different people, they’ll have the same ip number at that time unless they use another computer.

    *That should be very helpful,it can get really confusing when people do that. I don't know a lot about IP numbers and such. I do know though that mine often comes up as Calgary,though I'm hours from there. *shrugs*

    @WiteWitz
    Unless I'm just being noobish,I can't seem to be able to use the PM feature yet. A message comes up that because I'm a new member I can't yet. Not sure if anyone else is getting that or not. Once it's working I will though,thanks.

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  87. I've sent you a PM Xtine. Now you can just hit reply.

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  88. Got it but there's no reply button??

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  89. Hmmm... can 't explain that one, that IS odd.

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  90. I'm looking,looking and looking some more. Checking settings,nothing. Strange.

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  91. ???? am I on your FOE list alread ????

    Just Kidding. I can't figure out why you would have no REPLY button.

    Go:

    User Control Panel
    Board Preferences
    Allow users to send PM's

    I'm sure you've got it checked off correctly though, otherwise you wouldn't have rec'd the PM I just sent.

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  92. I tried all of it,just checking my browser settings now.If all else fails I'll post an email addy. I'm a member of a few forums,I've never seen this before either. Unless maybe Agent K has me in a time out mode for now,lol.

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  93. Okay I'm officially stumped,lol.

    Anyway,if you're comfortable doing so,you can shoot me an email at goblogreader at g mail dot com.
    If not,I'll reply as soon as I'm able to on the message board.

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  94. I tried to log in to the new place but it kept telling me my user name was incorrect...i'm using lexxus90, same as here...i don't get it...just my luck :(

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  95. Hey Maw - you just can't stop being bossy eh? Already trying to dictate and take control of how the new board should be run...(albiet with intentional subtlety)

    Maw said: (on new board)
    "maybe people can make their own sub categories as well? Such as I could make one to discuss gangs, others could make one to discuss the Lafortunes, or Lindsey, or FB chit chat, or Bash the blogger:)"

    And oh, correct me if I am wrong but didn't K say:

    "Let’s not be so hostile. Point granted that although the case is tragic, there is a lot of strange drama associated with it. Let's lose the drama."

    Yet you are suggesting a category called "Bash the Blogger" ??? Hmmmm - doesn't that promote hostility ? And I thought you said last night you respected what K was trying to achieve and your reasons for putting people in their place were to back him up. Seems to me YOU are inviting drama and hostility with that topic suggestion ???

    Yeah, yeah, everyone will say I am picking on Maw (the teacher's pet); and I am certain this post will mostly likely be deleted but hopefully not before a few folks read it. This poster is not the innocent "new blogger" she presents as and gives the word "over bearing" a whole new meaning and just doesn't GET IT...

    I remain fed up with her condescending and "pushy" ways...clearly she did not learn a thing from last night's discussion so being nice and respectful doesn't work. Didn't take her long to revert to old ways as opposed to heeding some constructive criticism. And yes, several "originals" feel this way.

    Have fun and good luck to all at the new locale with Maw self-appointing herself yet again and policing it all...only a matter of time.

    JMHO
    Hugs

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  99. Can't we just get past this?? geeesh you guys!!

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  100. Thanks Maw for sugesting me to register (DUH) lol.

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  101. Oh and just a sugestion Picasso...If you have a problem with anybody on this blog why not pm them? I'm tired of seeing the same old rant from you, Thanks :)

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  102. is the new forum on moderation still?

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  103. To Picasso, Ringo, Xtine, pringle:

    No one who remembers Maw's very first posts at GO should be surprised at how she tried to control the direction of the blog's discussion because by her 3rd post, she was already trying to herd people over to her site.

    1st post:
    Recess is now over and it is time to work, if you do not have a job to do then please take that time and spend it with your family, life is short. This is not a place to play games, it is a place to be serious. Agent K gave you all good advice last night, and it is time for you all to follow it.
    July 11, 2010 1:34 AM
     
    3rd post:
    i have a new playground for all the original GO bloggers, just a private chatroom, now how do I get the info to you in a confidential way?

    I do know how to contact RA Survivor and Butt, does everyone else know how to contact either of them?
     
    4th post:
    I have a playground, private and one can log in with their GO name

    the only information provided to anyone is similar to a visa number, such as when you log in it will say "isp X.X.X.X.65" the "X'S are there with only the last 2 numbers showing.

    this place also has a password to be able to enter it

    how could I share the password?
    July 12, 2010 6:20 PM
     
    5th post:
    Clck my name "maw"

    then click "my web page"

    the password will be moderated by agent K in my next post and he can pick and choose who is "safe" to pass on the password, if you all feel "safe" to chat here, then go right ahead, I am not an investigator of any sorts, just a form of teacher who tired of seeing your investigations spoiled by childish games. I have been with you all since the beginning and very much enjoy reading your thoughts.
    July 12, 2010 7:52 PM
     
    To which Agent K replied:
    The password is: WTF

    Just kidding. I don't know who to give the password to I don't trust anyone. People e-mail me anonymously and I have no idea who they are. Don’t forget to pick a password that isn’t very easy to hack.
    July 12, 2010 7:58 PM
     
    6th post:
    Agent K -

    hahaha:)

    is this your way of saying I need to pick a harder password?
    July 12, 2010 8:04 PM
     
    7th post:
    chat room rules -

    i just found out that only 10 people can be in it at a time - unless I want to pay - which I dont.

    the information in the room stays in the room unless a request is made (to me) to clear the room.

    I do not have to be active in the room for you people with the password to use it.

    there is a button in which any information can be copied and sent right to this blog here.

    so if the Mature investigators do get information they will bring it over here for all to read.
    July 12, 2010 9:36 PM
     
     

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  104. @Chilli - it's nice to see an old familar face; and that of someone whose comments I value greatly. Thank you for your post.

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  110. awww...thanks maw!! :)

    but nobody gave me a password :(

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  111. Picaso: Re post at 7:17 PM Relax… paint a picture. Maw just made a few suggestions. Nothing wrong with that. Looks like you all have worked it out though.

    I’m still working on getting the new forum running right. Well still getting to it. It’s still on moderated. I’ll figure it out in the morning. Cheers.

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  112. ya, there were a few of us on the blog when a lake site was being looked at. some invited, some not. but when no one was sure if there was a chat room or not, Maw suggested one...and it went from there. honestly, I think Maw was just trying to carry on the conversations, and because the troll was getting nasty, and some didnt get an invite, Maw suggested a place to go to continue. anyway, many many great ideas/questions/finds have come about hear. obviously by the way some people (ie he.shark, LaFs) responded here and on FB sites, I believe some of the posts were getting to hot to handle. on that note, I hope we can get back to normal...whatever normal is?!

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  113. And no offense but I really don’t trust anyone. There has been so many cases of people budding up to someone to get personal info then using that personal info against them in a vicious and vindictive manner it is truly mind boggling.

    Normally I’m all for appointing moderators like on facebook groups but I think that due to the sensitive and dramatic nature of this case I’ll refrain from doing that at this time. I’ll just let it run itself and block trolls as they flame. Otherwise people are free to make suggestions and carry on.

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  114. good job K! we know it can be a pain in the ^$$ to moderate, but I think we all know that there were/are some people against this blog and would love to keep everyone quiet. regarding trust...there is not a lot of trust in any of this, so hopefully we can be respectful. the trolls will be flushed out and then..well..K...its all yours.

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  115. lexxus90 said...

    awww...thanks maw!! :)

    but nobody gave me a password :(

    when Agent K gets the pming thing working at the new place _ I will give it to you, I have already added you as a friend:)

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  116. i have gone through and deleted all my posts on this blog - btw, the old ones that had disappeared have reappeared. ??????

    in all honesty - YES I am a stranger to you all. I have not been active on this blog "in your eyes" at all, until this last wee bit.

    I did have a point to prove, a couple actually...

    Firstly - a few suspected that once gangs were mentioned on this blog - a troll of some form, the worst being fn troll - showed their ugly head. I too believe this, part reason why I was pushing the gang talk, to anger those ugly trolls.

    the other reason I pushed the gang talk is because - I do really believe in that theory, but I am not an investigator and I cant find out anything more then what has already been pointed out. I did wish that if people would work on the project of figuring out gangs rather then gossip, we could find a solution to this query. But maybe this is just too hard for us to dig deeper then we have? Can this theory go any farther? or has everyone gone as far as they can with it? Do we just have to wait for the police to release details?

    secondly and lastly - the outing game - it is not safe to do in this forum, this has to stop, no mater how mad you get at someone it is not safe to out them on this blog.

    now I am going back to the Real Maw that I am - one who is more caring and loving rather then being a hard core ass.

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  117. Sparkle said… “there is not a lot of trust in any of this, so hopefully we can be respectful.”

    Indeed.

    Maw said… “when Agent K gets the pming thing working at the new place _ I will give it to you”

    The forum *should* be working now. I would think full access for all users would mean the ability to post and pm.

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  118. A couple of quick thoughts. When people don't have control in their own lives they often try to control others. Perhaps DP fell into this category.
    And I don't at all discount gang involvement, especially since Agent K has had so many "tips" in this area, and waaaay back someone said that they heard Ryan say that Dustin was jumped in. I don't know how credible that source was.
    Lastly, for a while at least, I would like to remind people that you can do drugs, sell drugs, grow drugs, and make drugs independantly, without gangs being involved at all.
    Does that mean you step on some toes along the way? Why yes, yes it does!!

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  119. Shannon said...
    A couple of quick thoughts. When people don't have control in their own lives they often try to control others. Perhaps DP fell into this category.

    further, and why? people make mistakes, have indiscretions (they thought he was a tiger, but he's a lion), do what some people deem bizarre/strange, etc. why pick on these people, we have all been there. shouldn't we be more diligent in scoping out the crooks? some of them are obvious and are trying to divert topics to throw responsibilities somewhere else.

    Maya Angelou: "If someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time"

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  120. Ummm, agent K, clarify for me, willya?

    Is the discussion being transferred over to the new forum at:

    http://gangstersout.46.forumer.com

    Or is it continuing in two different places - there and here?

    Here I was, merrily chatting over there, thinking we were giving up on the blog thread, due to the "glitches" and trolls.

    P.S: WiteWitz, I PMed you, over there ---->

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  121. 2dotconnecters, I was wondering the same thing, I'm a little confused too.

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  122. Lexxus, maybe I should cut and paste my info that I posted over there, about "How opiates get stolen without detection from pharmacies" over to this blog?

    It seems that duplicating all discussions to both places, will seem a bit redundant, and onerous.

    Maybe the other forum is just so that IP addresses can be verified. hahahahaha...

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  123. Shannon said... “A couple of quick thoughts. When people don't have control in their own lives they often try to control others.”

    Here I thought you were talking about Renee and Ryan.

    2dotconnectors said... “Ummm, agent K, clarify for me, willya?
    Is the discussion being transferred over to the new forum at:
    http://gangstersout.46.forumer.com
    Or is it continuing in two different places - there and here?”

    It’s neither here nor there : )

    People can post wherever. I just thought making a second forum was helpful because people were asking me to fix the blog. This way if this thread gets frozen the discussion can continue elsewhere. Having threads in a messageboard is easier to follow.

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  124. Agent K- If the shoe fits for anyone, they should wear it! ;)
    Sparkle, I'm not really sure about your point re "some of them are obvious and are trying to divert topics to throw responsibilities somewhere else." It's too cryptic for me, sorry! Love your quote though.
    People come in all shapes and sizes and I know if I had brought home Paul Bernardo my mom would have loved him! Lawyers and probably even judges- many "business" men are patched Angels as far as I have been told. So I'm not sure how to scope out a crook, unless someone comes to me to sell me something much below cost (or much above for that matter) :D
    I would like to know why solving this case has been slow as molasses if one guy took another guy for something to do and tortured him. The suspect has been "named" supposedly. Supposedly there are witnesses. There is also a body of evidence.
    What could we possibly be missing? I can't wait to find out, as I bet the answer has been talked about. How could it not, after two months of daily conversations about this???

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  125. Maw, why did you erase all your posts after Chile quoted your earlier ones? Why do you admit to posting stuff to goad the flamers rather than posting honestly? Why are you writing about the Paxton T shirts on the other site now when you said you only want to talk about gangs and not "gossip"?

    So many games here, so many games.

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  126. Ringo said...

    Maw, why did you erase all your posts after Chile quoted your earlier ones? Why do you admit to posting stuff to goad the flamers rather than posting honestly? Why are you writing about the Paxton T shirts on the other site now when you said you only want to talk about gangs and not "gossip"?

    my Response - I erased everything because I threw a little "tantrum" and while doing so, I was so THANKFUL I was not blair having to erase everything:) hahaha.

    I pointed out the Paxton T-shirts NOT AS GOSSIP but to show that Justin - who I believe is Dustin's best friend is still STATING (through the use of the t-shirt(s) that Paxton did it.

    in all honesty I am open to many theories, I do have some inside information that does not go with my own personal theory. YES I believe somehow gangs are behind this, but I am open to hear all.

    the T-shirt(s) worn by Dustin's best friend does indeed say alot.

    who is to say Paxton is not part of a Gang and Lead the beatings/abuse through Gang orders.

    Who is to say that Paxton forced Dustin out on the streets to sell drugs and Dustin got gang beat over that?

    either way Paxton would be at fault.

    the posting of the t-shirt was only to show Dustins best friend is indeed still stating Paxton did it.

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  128. oh ps - i for got to answe this question -

    Maw, why did you erase all your posts after Chile quoted your earlier ones?

    I actually started to erase those posts the night I claimed I was done with this group, Knowing Chilli has copies is a good thing incase I need something from them:)!.

    those posts do not reflect the true me, I was trying to pull off a hardcore assed, finger shaking Maw character.

    Personally I am done with that and Just want to be me:)

    I did have alot of behind the scene comments that encouraged me to keep it on the gang talk, alot of people were tired of the needless gossip and the outting.

    there is a huge difference between talking about a topic compared to gossiping.

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  129. Why would you make up a character.....? And post here as others before that?

    I think it was Paxton and that news will be confirmed soon, and that's why the family opened the site again because they're not afraid of the gang talk anymore.

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  130. Ringo said... I think it was Paxton and that news will be confirmed soon, and that's why the family opened the site again because they're not afraid of the gang talk anymore.

    my response - definitely the family and Lindsey both agree to this, maybe it is hard for me to get my mind around that solely one sick individual did this to a person that I want to believe there is gangs behind it. But I am aware of the details of the Beheading on the greyhound bus???? It is just that in the end Paxton took Dustin to the hospital, that part is the weirdest part, and adds to the wonder of a potential gang beating and paxton saving Dustin's butt by taking him to the hospital. I think that if Paxton never took him to the hospital, it would indeed make it easier to believe he alone did this to Dustin.

    Ringo Said.....
    Why would you make up a character.....?

    my response -
    I dont know, fn troll angered me and I wanted the originals not to be saying good bye but to get the story back on track. I really did enjoy my nightly read here, but then everything just went down hill, I wanted to be a tough momma and help get it back on track, but I failed.

    Ringo said....

    And post here as others before that?

    my response - I am not sure what you mean by this question? if you think I was on here before - no never, maw is my first and only appearance, but I have talked behind the scenes and not on any facebook. I do not have an online identity except for in a family tree that a cousin made up, I am honest when I say this is my first blog experience.

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  131. Maw - here is the problem as I see it... and I re-iterate - I am not on ANY side of the fence. Personally, I think all sides are keeping secrets and I do not know what happened to Dustin nor do I have insider information as you claim to. I am just one person. like many, who became interested in this case from Day 1, and have only my opinions like you and everyone else which I choose to keep to myself vs. speculating. To each his own - I respect all opinions and probably a bit of truth to all.

    The problem here (and perhaps the reason you are being "called out" on things) is because you continually contradict yourself which in and of itself comes across as someone with an "agenda" beyond just finding the truth. NOT saying you do but you have blazed quite a trail for yourself in just a few weeks and you seem to have to do a lot of "damage control".

    Maw said:

    Ringo said...
    And post here as others before that?

    my response - I am not sure what you mean by this question? if you think I was on here before - no never, maw is my first and only appearance, but I have talked behind the scenes and not on any facebook. I do not have an online identity except for in a family tree that a cousin made up, I am honest when I say this is my first blog experience.

    Now in the posts that you deleted (above) during your "tantrum", you clearly stated in one of those posts that you had been in communications with Wiccan about forming a chat group and that it was back when you were under another ID ? (Presumably, someone can produce a copy of that particular post if need be.)

    I believe this is what Ringo was referring to in his/her question to you. Can you please clarify your earlier post then ?

    ps - glad you can get a chuckle at my expense. I note you deleted your "hard ass" very rude comment directed at me personally. That's ok. I will remain respectful despite that comment (since deleted).

    P

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  132. omfg...sharpie needs a labotomy...the pills aren't working...shall we fundraise?

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  133. Sparkle,I say we start by holding a heartwarming candlelight vigil for her. Then create over 9000 groups to vie for the coveted 'who cares the most' position.

    This followed by posting some Youtube videos that contain messages of hope and general warm fuzzies. Oh,and poems too! Money can be raised by selling purple Team Heather tees,the colour co ordinating perfectly with the purple trucks that seem to have taken her away.

    What a nut!

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  134. I have never seen such a nutbar in my life.

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  135. well, soon she'll be going to see the backstreet boys...whew...

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  136. Where are you reading her stuff....?

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  137. @Sparkle - she really is making a fool of herself all over the internet.

    Seriously, it is so pathetic (and sick) that attaches herself to other people's horrific tragedies under the guise of being "compassionate" only to draw recognition for herself. (And yes, she is on the McCann group - it is so easy to find her various FB aliases...the same MO, if you will...sad but true - to take advantage of these families)

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  138. @Ringo - see the wall under the Trust DL FB Group.

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  139. Ringo said...
    Where are you reading her stuff....?

    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=109791759070456&topic=65#!/board.php?uid=109791759070456

    hope that link works

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    Now in the posts that you deleted (above) during your "tantrum", you clearly stated in one of those posts that you had been in communications with Wiccan about forming a chat group and that it was back when you were under another ID ? (Presumably, someone can produce a copy of that particular post if need be.)

    my response - you dont need to provide proof of that, I will admit to it, I spoke with Wiccan under a different Identity - that Identity being a EMAIL LETTER from a EMAIL ADDRESS.

    Please find yourself a life Picasso so you need not keep playing this game - it is BORING already.

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  141. Picasso...that woman has serious problems. we got sidelined here a couple of time chatting about some of our own dilemnas, but 'wow' is all I can say about sharpie.

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  142. Ahhh thanks for the links folks. Wacky indeed.

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  143. She can also be seen in action on one of the wall posts that has over a hundred comments on that group.

    Picasso said...
    Seriously, it is so pathetic (and sick) that attaches herself to other people's horrific tragedies under the guise of being "compassionate" only to draw recognition for herself. (And yes, she is on the McCann group - it is so easy to find her various FB aliases...the same MO, if you will...sad but true - to take advantage of these families)

    Agreed,and I've spotted here there too. Someone who is simply well intentioned wouldn't maintain a bunch of sock puppet profiles for groups like that. What the hell?

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  144. Unfortunately The Sharpie is known to tip the bottle a little too much. When she appears extra loony, it is often due to this.

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  145. well AFKA, that sure explains some of it...I guess that's the 'extra' in looney!

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  146. I have pity for her - others just despise her and mock her. Don't get me wrong, she deserves everything she gets. She's screwed over many people in her day.

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  147. Re Sharpie - you would think by now that the family would realize (with her crazy behaviour) that she is actually a liability to them and NOT an asset and kick her to the curb. It was bad enough they lost donations rightly or wrongly on their own accord; but now she is loosing them for them too - posting incessantly, alienating folks and spewing garbage !

    She is making them look REALLY bad...I know I wouldn't want her anywhere my team, that's for sure but go figure...

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  148. Sorry - meant "anywhere NEAR my team"...

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  149. @ Picasso"

    She is making them look REALLY bad...I know I wouldn't want her anywhere my team, that's for sure but go figure... "

    Like their PR person did not do equivalent damage? LOL

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  150. I am surprised that she doesn't get it - what she does, how she acts...and people seem to be telling it like it is to her...and she doesn't get it. I can't understand how she can weasle in like that?

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  151. No one ever understands what drives her or how she weasels in with the families. It's not worth trying to figure out. She's a waste of space in all aspects. Maybe Blue Eyes should ask her? I shouldn't say that, Blue Eyes is not an evil, lying, back stabber like The Sharpener.

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  152. its actually quite morbid what she does.

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  153. Good word to describe her obsession = MORBID. Like being an ambulance chaser on FB.

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  154. Wow, that's pretty creepy stuff. So when she's on the family site quoting her friend Carol who she identifies as Tim's Mom, she means Tim McLean who died on that bus. Wow, again. Yes very morbid.

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  155. if you have an interest in re-reading this blog, there is more info on her. Mrs. McLean is a drop in the water.

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  156. I think I get it, having read references to some of her other "interests" in some of the exchanges on the Trust site. But I may look through this site later, when I've stopped getting the shivers!

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  157. I have no interest in going back to read that. It is sad, all the people posting about their split decision to donate their money elsewhere due to The Sharpeners presence in that group.

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  158. The constant "name dropping" is all part of getting recognition for herself; otherwise, why would you post Tim's mom's name on the DL group or at anywhere at all. True good deeders genuinely work behind the scenes and often donate annonomously, etc; and they certainly don't "name drop" at every single opportunity.

    (As an aside, I just checked the McCann group and the profile that I had identified as The Sharpener - well all those posted were deleted about a week ago. Now I would put money down that it was another of her FB identities - so she was either booted by that family or circled the wagons under a new profile. I hope it was the former). Cripes, how does one keep with all that she does ?

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  159. That is very true - when you do something with pure and good intentions, you should not need to be publicly praised.

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  160. absolutely Picasso and AFKA...a true gift is given from the heart...

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  161. AFKA - that is exactly what I was trying to say. Thank you.

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  162. Ohhkay well I must pack it in, so in order to shake this creepy feeling and not have nightmares...did anyone notice on the family page today Lynn said DL now eighs 184 lbs? That's gotta be good, all things considered.

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  163. omg packing it in at the right time tonight.

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  164. heather, is that you dear?

    were okay...and certainly not trying to make anyone miserable...they do that to themselves.

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  165. @ yousuck

    LOL - Sharpener is that you? Took you long enough.

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  166. @ yousuck

    Put your hands up and walk away from the bottle ... real slow ... and no one gets hurt.

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  167. Doesn't yousuck look/sound like FNtroll when it talks like that? :-)

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  168. HEY where'd my protective eyeball go???

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  169. That's funny WW, I was thinking the same thing. Wonder if The Sharpener was on vacation that week the FNtroll went nutso?

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  170. Pfew! got it... was feelin a might nekkid there for a sec.

    Naw Sharpener just passed out on the keyboard and her noggin just kept hitting "return".

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  171. Ah...for the record, I am new here and never bashed any of those people you refer to except Heather and I stand by my comments...(and oh yes, I did call Maw out for her bossy, overbearing ways and some of her numerous "contradictions"...yes, I know you are watching/reading too; I just chose to ignore your rude last comment as I am done with you).

    You Suck - if you are not Sharpie - she must me in crisis mode as the cards are coming crumbling down...and she is exposed for what she truly is.

    Expecting some heavy trolling right about now..lmao..think I will follow Ringo's lead and safe myself the grief/insults.

    Cheers
    P

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  172. @ yousuck

    Why do you stalk families that are going through tragedies? Why do you say you do not read GO when you were clearly baited here this evening?

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  173. WOW - that comes naturally for you eh Sharpener. Thanks for the confirmation that you were FNtroll also. It should have been suspected as you were also "in bed" with Jodie.

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  174. lol WW...the evil eye

    yousuck, you forgot LA...hhhmmmmm. we have chatted all angles of this thing, and LA has been a part also, and you missed her.hhhmmm

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  175. Yes I thought the last time yousuck showed up, it was actually Jodie who then ran away with Brian/C and the truth.

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  176. Ewwwwww! "in bed with Jodie" I'll never sleep again!

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  177. sparkle said...
    lol WW...the evil eye

    It's my protective talisman keeping away all black witches, trolls and pencil sharpeners.

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  178. Ringo: why do you say I'm a Newf?

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  179. Cause when you called me tweedle dum (!), you said, "I thinks they loves you," you sounded like a Nflder!! Am I wrong?

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  180. Hey where did The Sharpener (FNtroll) (yousuck) go? Must be scoping out another FB tragedy to dig the talons into? She has been found out on this one. Must move on ..............

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  181. Well for someone who claimed to not ever read this blog Sharpie sure knew enough about it. I think I'd said here before that she was likely behind the FNtroll business,fighting the good fight for recognition. Wow.
    I shall go light a candle for her,a poignant symbol of hope that her sanity returns soon.

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  182. Milty,she's right here;

    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=109791759070456&topic=65

    I thought she said she'd left that group?
    *waves*

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  183. Waste of a match and wax ... can't happen.

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  184. Picasso said... I just chose to ignore your rude last comment as I am done with you.

    my reply - THANK - YOU, Seriously I would rather just be friends.

    handshake? and call our dispute over and done with?

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  185. WiteWitz said...
    Ringo: why do you say I'm a Newf?

    August 1, 2010 9:18 PM
    Ringo said...
    Cause when you called me tweedle dum (!), you said, "I thinks they loves you," you sounded like a Nflder!! Am I wrong?

    August 1, 2010 9:22 PM


    Lexxus90 says: I'm a proud newfoundlander!

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  186. Ha, Proud Newfoundlanders are the only Newfoundlanders there are!

    OK, night folks!

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  187. Nightie night yousuck! Try to relax!

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  188. I'm out as well,goodnight all.

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  189. Sharpener...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVjRIJFv2ww

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  190. Picasso said,,, “Expecting some heavy trolling right about now..lmao.”

    Indeed. I just jumped in and saw the beginnings of Yousuck and gave it the boot. Here you all were egging it on…

    I’m really tired and am not going to delete another million troll spam when I still haven’t had time to clean up the last thread. I’ve put it back on moderated for a while. The other forum should be working. I’ll have to check if it sucks there to. Cheers.

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  191. Agent K, you are right. apologies from me on taunting the sharpener. we need to discuss what we came here to discuss.

    Agent K said: on GO4

    The two questions I have is:

    1) Did Paxton know Sean Wolfe and Tiny Mac?

    2) Who was the big tattooed man that got personal info from the hospital?

    We know the big tattooed man was not Paxton.

    re: tattooed man - he was obviously not concerned to be at the hospital and must have had a very convincing story. although the hospital apologized, I find it hard to believe the hospital failed in concerns of privacy, and possibly security in this regard. did the mystery man have some fake id (ie name associated with the case) and have some insider information he used to manipulate the hospital staff?

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