From one extreme to the other. From an inspiring heart wrenching image of a place where blind men see to a dark place no one wants to see - Finian's Inferno so to speak. The Huffingting Post is reporting that Police have arrested three Hells Angels members from Alberta following a vicious assault on the Greek island of Corfu. Global is confirming all three are from Alberta. It was a near fatal attack on a 41 year old male who is currently on life support. There isn't really anything proud or noble about a brutal three on one attack. Nobody likes bullies.
Kim Bolan implied that Greece hasn't released the names of the members charged due to privacy laws. That is somewhat absurd. We don't have those kind of laws in Canada. If someone is charged with a brutal assault like this, the public has a right to know who has been charged knowing that people are innocent until proven guilty by law. In Canada privacy laws mean the government can't spy on you without a warrant. Those laws are being trampled as we speak.
I have the names of two of the three Canadians from the Edmonton chapter charged and I have quite a few pictures of one proudly posing with members of the Whiteboy posse who are drug dealers that sell drugs for the Edmonton Hells Angels and decapitated Bob Roth for a drug debt. It is a dark inferno of greed and extortion. There are two reasons I'm not going to post them.
First it's because Gangsters out is going through a metamorphosis. Gangsters out is no longer for outting gangsters. It is for helping gang members get out of the life by supporting TBM Fresh Start. It is also to continue to raise public awareness about drug related violence to help us develop the political will to one day embrace the New York Model.
The other reason is because it really doesn't matter which members it was because it clearly reflects on all of them since it was at an international convention. The plausible deniability argument fails here. The Hells Angels are pretty passionate about banning people from misusing their trademark. They are more than capable of discouraging this kind of behavior at public events. What do you think is going to happen the next time they want to host a convention in a City? The residents will oppose it just like they did the Devil's Rejects clubhouse in Langford.
Update: OK my sources claim it was Nick Dragich and Dusty Swanson (on the right) a prospect for Westridge, formally from the Dirty flu. Nick has confirmed he was in Greece at the time:
Weren't the German "brothers" the ones who were charged with human trafficking in Spain?
Second Update: The sister of the victim on life support contacted the Vancouver Sun and Kim Bolan has posted her account of what happened. It was a bold case of three on one bullying. A senseless act of violence that has left Canada diminished.
It turns out that Nick Dragich was one of the Hells Angels posing with Rob Ford when he was mayor of Toronto a while back. The Toronto Hells Angles were bragging about it on their web site. Nice bunch of guys. I'm sure there's a special place in hell reserved just for them.
I have no difficulty with Greece with holding the names. its their country and their laws apply. Not all countries use the same system as we do and they have the right to do so and we need to respect that countries laws.
ReplyDeleteNow it is good it has been reported. It clearly demonstrates what you have alleged all along, some member of the group are violent. We can conclude this was not a business trip but rather for pleasure. As such you would think they could have left their "business" tactics at home. Ah, well they aren't going to like those Greek jails one bit. The government is having a financial crisis and their jails are not at the top of their funding agenda.
Yeah well I don't have to do anything. I'm not in Greece so I can publish those names if I so choose. It's just this whole idea of outting gangsters is so futile. The list never ends. I was hoping we could lobby the club for better leaders. The big boys like Lotus and the Triads keep a low profile and just do business. As long as the HAs let clowns like this run rampant they'll lose money and get their criminal organization status in a heart beat.
DeleteThe victim is apparently on life support. While we would hope he would recover completely, that doen't usually happen with head injuries and life support is often a way to get family there for a last goodbye or for organ donor purposes. The point being if that guys dies, those 3 HA may not be coming home anytime soon. On the other hand, Greece is notoriously corrupt, and the HA certainly have millions in drug money to buy them out. The question is, would they? ;-)
DeleteI think the idea of lobbying for "better" leaders is only to lobby for leaders who are even more dangerous. FAR more dangerous.
DeleteDisorganized crime is one thing - organized is another.
If one thinks by having different leaders things will be less violent on the street that is exactly the opposite of what will happen.
When the HA were just late teen/early 20's punks they did the stuff they got labeled for. Now they have "mature" adults who have changed the club's behaviour and made it as dangerous as it is today.
Do we really want them to up the notch significantly more?!
trailrunner: Just like Janice Shore. She went into a coma from all the head trauma and never recovered.
DeleteDr Smythe: I just think if they used their brain and weren't so loud and proud they'd make more money and less people would get hurt.
DeleteAgent K: If they were not involved in drugs and that lifestyle they would not be so proud. We need remember that pride is the original sin. From Satan's "non serviam" (I will not serve) to today's copy cats. Look where Lucifer's non serviam got him.
DeleteHerodotus wrote in his Histories, "Our fathers, in time past, distinguished right and wrong plainly enough, and it is our wisdom to submit to be taught by them" (1.8).
Until they change their whole concept and structure, purpose and lifestyle, mission and vision - and this for ALL their charters world-wide - NOT A THING will change with the HA.
Perhaps.
Deleteyes, the quality of candidates seems to be pond scum thin. This is not how a major corporation does business.
ReplyDeleteof course I don't have a problem with you publishing their names here, its just that I don't have a problem with Greece refusing to release their names. We ought to respect Greece's laws, while in Greece. You're not there, so what you do is fine.
it will be interesting to follow this case. Will Greece simply deport them, as a quick and easy fix or will they try them and then let them finish their jail sentences in Canada. If the victim dies, it would be a murder charge and time in Greek jails will not be anything like a jail term in Canada.
They will not go to Canada.... they will stay in Greek prison!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI hope this is true. What they did makes all of Canada look bad.
DeleteLet us hope that the will enjoy many years of fine Greek hospitality! ;-)
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Delete"He came out a few minutes later to find men wearing Hells Angels vests around his motorcycle. One was sitting on it. “My brother told them sorry you’re on my bike and I want to go home,” she said."
ReplyDeleteThese douche bags would beat the crap out of anyone who sat on their bike, yet don't mind sitting on someone else's bike, then beating the owner half to death. What scum. It would be too bad if they all got shanked in prison over there. :sarc:
"I think these people shouldn’t be allowed to leave their country. Why does the government allow these monsters to go around the world?"
Excellent question. IIRC the Canadian government has refused to issue passports in the past to people with a criminal record. Does this still apply? Perhaps this incident can be used as the catalyst for the government to adopt a regulation that no one who is a member of a criminal organization may hold a Canadian passport, whether they themselves have a record or not.
Too bad Greeks don't have a Second Amendment. Three dead Hell's Angle's would have been a better outcome than what we have now.
I wonder if the victim has passed yet? Condolences to his family and friends for being the true victims in this senseless crime.
ReplyDeleteHe is trying to hold on to his life,yet the doctors say he is brain dead ...
DeleteMy brother is fighting for his life..what happened to him is so unfair. Those beasts will pay for what they did to him. All 3 of them will get what they deserve !! WE PROMISE !!!
DeleteWe are so sorry this has happened. Those three criminals do not represent Canada. We hope the stay in Greece and face the full penalty for their cowardly act.
Deletewe will do everything in our power to punish them by the law...I tahnk you all for your sympathy and kind words, and i also want to say one more thing , out loud....
ReplyDeletealthough we are in a financial crisis, we will not get bought out.
We don't do that... We are proud Creeks, ruled by a shamefull goverment all these years.... they stole our money, but we are proud.... we do not sell our souls to anyone!!!! thank you for your time all...
Yes we realize the Greek financial crisis was the result of investment fraud just like the Wall Street bailout. They are pulling that same scam all over the world. It's theft of tax dollars.
DeleteAny updates about the victim and/or the Canadians? I hear there's a $300K CAD bailout? Greece's financial crisis just got worse today too.
ReplyDeleteI haven't heard any new news. I certainly hope not. The Canadian HAs busted with 500 kilos of cocaine in Spain is taking it's time winding through the courts as well.
DeleteUnfortunately my brother lost his life.... his funeral was yesterday.. There will not be bailout.... I am not allowed to speak about the case, but i am telling you this... No matter how poor we are at the moment, no matter what our country is going through their money cannot buy us....
ReplyDeleteI am very sorry for your loss. Life does not end at death. You will see him again but not yet. Peace.
DeleteMy sincerest condolences for your father and brother. I'm just curious as to which prison in Greece the Canadians are being held in?
DeleteI don't think you need to worry about them "getting out" anytime soon. I'm from the same small town as Dusty and his family is currently trying to raise money on their own for his lawyer. They don't seem to be having much luck at it, his sister was saying that someone kicked in her door to steal the $25000 they'd saved up so far. So much for the brotherhood having his back. Perhaps even they are sickened by the actions of this stray.
Deletei really hope, that God is on our side , since He wasn;t when my brother was killed by those monsters.... We do the best we can to punish them for their crimes, and as you foreign people say... We will do it , by the book! We are honest people, we do not want anybody's family to suffer, BUT my mother, my sister and me, we suffer everyday and will suffer for the rest of our lives... they will pay for their crimes... they will pay for killing my brother, and they will pay for everything else they have done.... As for the so called brotherhood, we are not afraid of them... they can not hurt as any more than they allreday have... What will they do to us? Kill us too? we are ready fot them.... just waiting for their move... Thank you Pegan for your time . any information is valuable...
Deletewhat is going on is there a trail yet?
ReplyDeletehave they been to court yet?
ReplyDeletetheir trail will be in 14 months... untill then, they are in prison... thank you all for asking...
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