The National Post is reporting that "Most crime guns seized by police in Canada’s largest city this summer came from outside of Canada, according to data gleaned from a Toronto police Twitter account." This is what we've been saying all along.
"Posts made to the @TPSGunsSeized Twitter account shows 77 firearms seized in June, July and August of this year.
Of those, 11 of the firearms were non-restricted, 11 were classified as restricted, and 55 were prohibited (including two restricted firearms seized with prohibited magazines.)
Prohibited weapons are not legal to buy, sell or possess in Canada, and are smuggled from the United States."
"Looking back further, 84 of 116 firearms posted to @TPSGunsSeized since January were prohibited, 20 restricted and 11 non-restricted.
That’s compared to 138 guns seized last year between January and the end of August — 98 of which were prohibited."
Handguns are registered in Canada. In the US they are not. That means all handguns legally obtained in Canada have their serial numbers recorded and are easily traceable by the police. That is why Canadian criminals and gang members do not use them to commit crime. They use illegally obtained guns from the US that haven’t been registered because they are untraceable.
One would think this is common knowledge. So why the government’s big push to take away firearms from licensed responsible people in Canada under the guise of public safety? Criminals will still have unregistered guns there will just be LESS legal gun owners who are able to defend themselves against these criminals. Makes a lot of sense Justin Truedope.ReplyDelete
The push to take away registered guns and reduce the sentences for gun crime is to support Justin Trudeau's no longer hidden Agenda. It has nothing to do with reducing crime. Liberal sh*t holes are cesspools of crime. They promote crime to use that as a rationalization for their Agenda. It's the same old problem, reaction, solution paradigm.Delete
Dennis can you tell me what you have to do to become a hell’s angel? How do they get their patches and how many patches are there. ThanksDelete
I don't know. I've never been a member. They say if you have to ask, it's probably not for you. Meaning you have to know people who are involved to get involved. Their official website lists all the chapters. I don't think they publish the number of members they have. You don't have to kill someone to become a member. I'm of the understanding that's what the Filthy Few Patch is for.Delete
You know, I'm really pro-gun. I'd be pro-lightsabre if they had them. Really I'm just pro-weapon. Because a weapon is realistically what is needed to defend one's self in real life. The predators certainly have them. If a citizen were to have a PAL and under go a course of instruction identical to what a police officer does (number of hours) then realistically there is no reason why they should not be able to carry a handgun as well. "Except control freaks". I'm looking at you Justin, you low-bred piece of trash. All that said, anyone they catch OBVIOUSLY importing handguns for sale to criminals needs to be slammed and slammed hard. Unlike a citizen who would be carrying for self protection, these guns will be used for a mix of protection from other criminals and MURDER. Such a person caught with a load like this and anyone who paid them to do it needs to go away for a long time. Lifetime weapons ban would be a joke because they don't obey laws (duh) but sure add that too.ReplyDelete
Handguns in Canada are strictly for target shooting. They are not for self defense. Permits to carry are completely different. Several years ago my daughter had a friend over visiting from the United States. We were talking about firearm safety courses and she said, Oh I took that back home in America. They taught us when you shoot someone, shoot to kill. My daughter and I just looked at each other stunned. I said our training is quite a bit different than that. They teach us gun safety (control the muzzle, always point the firearm in a safe direction, never point it at anyone, never put a round into the chamber until you're ready to fire). They teach us how to prevent an accidental discharge so that we don't kill anyone. It's two completely different philosophies.Delete
Years ago the Bernhard Goetz self defense shooting on a New York subway hit the news. He shot a mugger in self defense and was lauded as a hero. However, it takes a huge amount of training and experience to safely pull that off. Think about it. We are taught to always point our firearm in a safe direction and when hunting, be aware of what's behind your target. There is no safe direction to point a firearm on a crowded subway. Permits to carry are very dangerous and very problematic.
Present Canadian Gun Safety Courses are lifted pretty much from the whole cloth of the ones they have down south. We didn't come up with "The Four Rules", they did.ReplyDelete
What this person said sounds a lot more like the typical uninformed Canadian idea of how things are down south. I've lived there and had a concealed firearms permit part of the time while I did. I had to take a class for that. No one teaches that. Do you have any idea of the legal exposure generated by that statement? They do. You would not teach a second class if you told people that in your first. Seriously. "Shoot to stop", as in "stop them from doing what they were doing that legally justified deadly force being used against them". Shoot to kill is for people who know nothing and the day they speak those words in the aftermath, you will see them being charged with a very serious felony or two for what was probably a legally justified shooting. The police everywhere in North America have the same understanding and train that way.
Bernie Goetz actually shot 4. Spent the 5th round from his 5 shot S&W Chief's Special on the one of the four who in his words, "You don't look too bad, have another". Gotta love the guy's sense of humor under what had to be extreme stress for him. All 4 were who we might call "the usual suspects". No tears, sorry.
You do realize that the Police have "permits to carry".....why is it not dangerous when they do it? "Problematic". Yeah all kinds of mayhem was predicted in Florida when they started issuing permits back in the 80's. And then it never happened. Never did anywhere else, either. The silence was deafening.
I don't want to get into an argument about this. I support the right to bear arms. All I'm saying is that the gun laws and gun culture in Canada and the US are different. Colion Noir just put out an excellent YouTube video about the right to carry in New York: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbiEYtJNKOgDelete
The shoot to kill advice I heard did not come from a Canadian it came from an American who took the course there. It's not the first time I've heard it. To my understanding law enforcement here have the same training. If someone is coming at them with a knife, they are going to shoot to kill. It kind of makes sense.
We had a spook on here that reiterated that belief. There was a female officer from the VPD that shot a guy in the leg who came at her with a knife. I applauded her self control. She was justified in shooting him dead but she chose not to. The spook said that was a bad idea and a bad example for other officers to follow:
This shoot to stop training you had sounds excellent. It does however depend on the situation. I do believe it is dangerous and problematic for anyone be that civilian or law enforcement to use a firearm in self defense on a crowded subway. That's my belief. I'm not saying I oppose carry permits. I'm saying people have to be well trained to be aware of what's behind the target just like they are when they go hunting.
That doesn't mean I oppose hunting. As for the Four Ruses in the US, that is a perfect example. In Canada we are taught to to always point the firearm in a safe direction and never point it at anyone. In the US they say never point a firearm at anything you are not willing to kill or destroy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTuYS857lOE
If someone is coming at you with a knife, you can shoot to stop but if someone is shootings at you with a gun you can't. If someone is shooting at you and you shoot him in the leg, he can still kill you. That's why you need to use lethal force in that situation unless he drops the gun and surrenders. That is if you're law enforcement or in the US.
"All I'm saying is that the gun laws and gun culture in Canada and the US are different."ReplyDelete
No argument there.