Sadly, numerous media outlets have confirmed the victim's sister's report on this blog yesterday morning that the person three Canadian members of the Hells Angels beat into a coma in Greece last month has now died as a result of those injuries.
The Edmonton Journal is confirming my previous report that the two Edmonton members are Nick Dragich, who posed with Rob Ford when he was mayor of Toronto, and Dusty Swanson, a prospect from the Dirty Flu. Kim Bolan is confirming my previous report that it was the same Nick Dragich posing with Rob Ford on the Toronto Hells Angels web site. Kim Bolan is also reporting that the third Canadian member, a nomad from Red Deer Alberta, is Brent Koziak.
If these 3 murderers are still in a Greek jail it will be interesting to see how much help they get from the Con government, which is just not so great at helping any Canadian in an over seas jail.
ReplyDeleteit might be awhile for the Greek government to get around to dealing with these 3. They are a tad busy with other things. Wonder if Rob Ford will post bail for them? Wonder if Greece will grant bail.
it is not nice to start a fight with some one, and then make it 3 on 1.
It was a senseless and horrific act of bullying.
DeleteDoing MMA style training is actually pretty common for these guys, they have to be able to fight/project a threatening demeanor, "muscle" is how they "TCB"......basic MMA offers a much quicker skill curve in the beginning than TMA, and if you're already working out at the gym, that's pretty much all that's needed to be able to intimidate or beat up someone with no hand to hand training or experience.
ReplyDeleteThe willingness to use violence is the first and most necessary thing. A low level of actual ability is not much of a handicap against someone who "doesn't want any trouble". This is why society is virtually powerless against these people, society is not willing to do what it takes to beat them. Were that willingness to be found or developed, these folks would not last long.
The whole intent of the martial arts is to preserve and protect not control and dominate. The strong don't bully the weak. The strong protect the weak.. That is what the strong do. The old ways appear to be lost.
DeleteDragich is apparently a long time boxer as well. Exactly the kind of guy the Angles are always trying to recruit.
ReplyDeleteThere's very little doubt that Dragich could have "handled", if that's the right word here, the Greek victim all on his own, but then we've got that Hall's Angles thing where everyone has to jump in, so.....
Hopefully the Greeks will be advised of and take notice of the fact that Dragich is a professional boxer and MMA fighter, and take that into account in his sentencing.
Greece is a member of the group of nations that are what we might refer to as "a blade culture", so with any luck we will eventually see how well boxing and MMA do when up against a nice piece of steel in the hand of someone who knows how to use it.
Or a tiny piece of lead. Anyone can pull a trigger. All it takes is one finger. Steroids don't make you bullet proof.
DeleteTrue, but I was thinking more of a Greek prison, where Dragich will apparently be spending some time. Greeks can be kind of touchy about their honor. ;-) He will need to be lucky every day, someone wanting to dispense a little Greek justice needs only to be lucky once.
ReplyDeleteMr. Dragich does not sound like a nice person. On the other hand, I would suggest we not lower ourselves to his level. In my opinion no one has the right to kill anyone else and that includes the state. So if Mr. Dragich spends 18 to 25 yrs in jail, that should be good enough.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't referring to the state. Even in Canada you are legally authorized to use reasonable force to defend yourself. Guess what reasonable force is against a lethal attack? Lethal force.
DeleteI submit that his victim, and his victim's family, would be completely OK with us "lowering ourselves to his level"......and I'm not seeing how these three oxygen thieves continuing to draw breath, even in prison, is any kind of justice for the victim and all the days in his life he'll never see, his family who are forced to go on without him, etc..
ReplyDeleteI've been hearing that shit since childhood. "Don't lower yourself to his level". It's the kind of BS that mothers who live a nice protected middle class existence tell the the sons they are hoping to raise to be good little males who's future wife will enjoy having them as a fucking pet. And it's garbage.
Meanwhile, in the real world, bad people who are inclined to be violent LOVE people who's parents tried to raise them to be like that. They call such losers "victims". Except for people like that, they'd have to get up and go to work for a living.
Executing some guy based on one eyewitness (notoriously unreliable, they've done scientific studies on that, Google it) or circumstantial evidence where a prosecutor can talk a jury into voting his way, not a good idea.
3 blood spattered Hall's Angle's, multiple eye-witnesses, forensic evidence out the zouvlaki etc.,different story. The Greeks have enough financial problems as it is, why should they have to feed these scumbags for the next 3 decades? And we don't need them back.,,,it would be a win all around.
If this had happened in surrey. All we would have is a picture of the victim and no one in jail.
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