DW is reporting that "Members of the Hells Angels motorcycle club were indicted for attempting to kill four people and injuring others with knives, axes and batons at a restaurant in Lisbon. The gang was banned by the Netherlands in May."
"Prosecutors allege that the gang's members tried to kill four people and seriously injured others last year at a restaurant on the outskirts of Portugal's capital, Lisbon. The restaurant was destroyed in the Hells Angels attack. At the time of the restaurant attack, the Hell Angels was involved in a gang war for control of illicit guns and drug trade, according to authorities."
Hells Angels from Germany were arrested in Mallorca on a small island off the coast of Spain back in 2013. They were charged with drug trafficking, trafficking in humans, extortion and running prostitution rings. February of this year the Majorca Daily Bulletin reported that the case is coming to trial and that "The centre of the gang's operations was Playa de Palma, where brothels were used to finance its network."
"The Hells Angels case was one element that led to the investigation into police corruption in Palma and ultimately to the Cursach case." In 2018 the Majorca Daily Bulletin reported that one of the two officers arrested was the contact for the madame, the arranger of alleged prostitute parties for police, politicians and public service employees."
Are you sure this wasn't the BC Gang Task force frequenting the Garden of Eden in Kelowna?
In Portugal and Spain they arrest Hells Angels for Prostitution. In BC they do not.
Europe takes a dimmer view of these types of things and if there is crime, they don't like it front and center. The H.A. doesn't seem to understand that. if they were a tad quieter about it, they might not have been dealt with in the manner they are.
ReplyDeletePortugal also has a great program for drug addicts. the H.A. is most likely making it more expensive, so again, they being European, may want to save some money. Europe does have some different ideas about social issues than North America does. Some European countries understand "front loading" social programs saves money in the long run, but groups like the H.A. can disrupt the "long run" plans.
If the H.A. doesn't watch out, they may find themselves outlawed in the E.U. They have a parliament and it applies to all countries.
Germany just banned an ethnic Turk "boxing club" crime group that was walking around with "cuts" (they had "BC" instead of "MC").....banning all these "MC" groups would be awesome.
ReplyDeleteGermany has been busy raiding a bunch of different organized crime groups and taking their stuff. While it's true that the same level of government ability to just do away with these people could be misused by crooked politicians, we might think about taking a page from this book. We have THE SAME f'ing people making a living from stealing people's lives instead of working an honest job, day after month after year, with only occasional victories, it's like playing "whack a mole". Unfortunately we don't seem to have a mechanism whereby we can ACTUALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM. We need to be able to round up all these guys, all the patch holders, all the prospects, all the hang-arounds, seize everything they own individually and collectively, and throw them all in prison for 20 years. THAT would actually have a chance at solving the problem. Until then, "SSDD". (same shit, different day)
Germany and other countries are only cracking down on these groups because there are a lot more of them over there and they are all fighting for control of "territory" they can control for illegal activities.
DeleteIf that was happening over here, there would also be a crack-down.
With the police/courts, apparently helping the HA in some parts of Canada stifle any opposition they are preventing this fighting.
They need to be honest and impartial.
This is the same road as the whacked out president of the Philippines is treading on. I will not walk down that road. It is essential that we not succumb to another false flag attack on civil liberty. Dirty cops let organized crime run rampant then they want to take away our civil liberty for the mess they created. I do not support that.
ReplyDeleteI support the New York model which confronts crime by addressing police corruption and street lever drug trafficking while preserving civil liberty. Some people took a vow to protect the constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic. Others broke that oath a long time ago.
There are two kinds of people in this world: oath keepers and oath breakers. I am an oath keeper. As they used to say in New York, my word is my bond. So mote it be.
rounding up all the people trailrunner suggests would violate people's civil rights. Not all MCs are criminals. The Constitution of Canada, gives us the right of association and free speech, there are peramaters, but just being a member of a club could be a problem in our society.
ReplyDeleteGermany has different laws from other countries to ensure there is no rise of a Nazi type group ever again or for that matter cults. It is acceptable to their citizens and works in their country.
You are speaking of the Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz, in English "The Office for the Protection of the Constitution". It was not set up but the Germans, it was set up by us. Us being the Allies at the end of WWII. The anti-Nazi aspects of German law (which we wrote and forced them to accept) are the least of and very specific aspects of German law, lesser known to non-Germans are the fact that all Germans must register their place of residence with the nearest police station (you move from Frankfurt to Berlin, you de-register in Frankfurt and within a certain period (I forget how long exactly) you must register with the police in Berlin. As well, the courts have the "profession ban" (Berufsverbot) whereby trouble makers can be banned from practicing a profession for which they are trained and qualified for. Both of these were not just in West Germany but also in the pre '89 East, it actually goes back a ways in Germany to before the war. The methods of control and sanction of "problem children" are part of German law which is based on Roman Law, not British Common Law.
ReplyDeleteI'm not suggesting we'd put the same people who fucked this all up and are corrupt/paid off in charge of any "disposal" effort. Citizens outnumber 1%'ers and cops both 1000 to 1 or more. An well armed citizenry would be more than able to handle the problem. But then we are arriving at the character of the citizenry of a country.....and that's a whole 'nother conversation. People get what they are willing to accept, so 'nuff said about that.
Be all that as it may, I don't see how it's disputable that quality of life would improve drastically if these folks disappeared into thin air and were never heard from again.
I'm talking about the US Constitution: https://oathkeepers.org/about
DeleteYeah sorry, I was replying to e.a.f. with that. I've heard of oath keepers.
ReplyDeleteHey DW, not directly related, but want you to see this, story in case you haven't yet. Pretty interesting!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/one-way-out-pastors-in-brazil-converting-gang-members-on-youtube/2019/05/17/be560746-614c-11e9-bf24-db4b9fb62aa2_story.html
Pretty wild. Thanks for the link.
DeleteHarold Chakirelis, a longtime member of the Cleveland Hells Angels, died on June 11. Services were held this past weekend.
ReplyDeleteChakirelis, most notably, was one two suspects in the infamous 1975 Sigley bombing, which was just one of the many bloody incidents propagated by the Angels and other motorcycle gangs in Cleveland during that deadly decade.
On Jan. 7, 1975, a suitcase bomb was left at the door of a Cleveland home. Brought inside by 26-year-old Burdell Offitt, who was visiting the home, the bomb exploded seconds later, killing him, 21-year-old mother Maryanne Sigley, and her 2-year-old son Michael. Three others were injured.
Chakirelis and fellow Hells Angel Richard Amato were arrested and indicted for the bombing. Judge James McGettrick dismissed the charges against Amato and, based on that move, prosecutors withdrew the charges against Chakirelis.
Years later, the judge was approached in a bar by someone who he thought was an Hells Angel but who was actually an undercover ATF agent.
"We really appreciate what you did for us," the agent said.
The judge responded by saying he should have asked for a bigger bribe and hadn't even collected the full amount yet. He was indicted and in 1985 pleaded no contest.
(https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/06/25/harold-chakirelis-longtime-cleveland-hells-angel-member-and-suspect-in-infamous-sigley-bombing-has-died)
A yes, Another dirty judge.
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